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Old 06-25-2007, 03:43 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

Villain is TAG. After his turn line, I'm sure he has a flush. So is the Jhigh flush good enough to push and get value from lower flushes?

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $201.15
Hero (BB): $209.85
UTG: $354.87
CO: $152.10
BTN: $316.28

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, CO calls $2.00, BTN folds, SB calls $1.00, Hero checks

Flop: ($6) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $4.00</font>, Hero calls $4.00, CO calls $4.00

Turn: ($18) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, CO folds, <font color="red">SB raises to $36.00</font>, Hero calls $24.00

River: ($90) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $55.00</font>

Pot Size: $145.00
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:47 PM
grando grando is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

eh I don't push - A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] and Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] flushes will always call, T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], probably, 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]....it's getting dicier

I think calling is better

it's close though....if he sucks then it's an instapush
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:50 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

raise flop as played fowld
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Old 06-25-2007, 03:55 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

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raise flop as played fowld

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lol?
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

Do you think villain is capable with calling with a worse flush? Would he call with a set?

This feels really close to me. I probably just call, but then I'm generally a wuss on the river, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:13 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

I get it all in on the turn if possible, I suppose calling is reasonable but then it really sucks when he bets into you and the board has paired. As played I think the river is an easy shove.
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Old 06-25-2007, 04:21 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

this is closer to a fold than a push with that read imo

i just call it with the dead money
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:36 PM
ValarMorghulis ValarMorghulis is offline
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

I guess I can't imagine anyone folding a flush. If he folds low flushes then pushing is obviously bad.

He completed in SB so (we can assume he folds some crap):
combos of flush that beat me:
AT,A9,A8,A6,A5,A4,A3,QT,Q9,Q8
combos of flush that I beat: T9,T8,98,96,86,85,76,75,74,65,64,54,53,43

I shoved but I think I should of called.

If hands like sets/2pair were in his range then shoving and hoping he makes a crying call is probably better. But his flop/turn combo shouted flush to me.

I also thought about pushing turn and that is maybe better than pushing river.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

Most TAGs raise Axs from the blinds, no?

I think I like a minraise/fold to shove on the river (yes, I'm serious).
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Old 06-25-2007, 07:06 PM
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Default Re: 200NL: I\'ve a flush, he\'s a flush, call or push

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Most TAGs raise Axs from the blinds, no?

I think I like a minraise/fold to shove on the river (yes, I'm serious).

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no, and this line is pretty interesting...
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