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Old 06-24-2007, 08:52 PM
carnivalhobo carnivalhobo is offline
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Default I has an overpair

My first orbit, fullstack is a lagtag regular, shorty is a standard bad shortstack

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $78.00
BB: $98.00
UTG: $195.00
CO: $207.00
Hero (BTN): $201.75

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $24.00</font>, SB calls $23.00, BB folds, CO calls $17.00

Flop: ($74) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $54.00</font>, <font color="red">CO raises all-in to $183.00</font>, HERO?
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:53 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:54 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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Old 06-24-2007, 08:57 PM
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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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if im folding JJ doesnt that make it a damn good play?
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:57 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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He thinks the pot is big enough so he gets it in.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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if im folding JJ doesnt that make it a damn good play?

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Why?

The fish has something here and villain doesnt have AK.
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Old 06-24-2007, 08:59 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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if im folding JJ doesnt that make it a damn good play?

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lol, you could say this in any situation
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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if im folding JJ doesnt that make it a damn good play?

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Why?

The fish has something here and villain doesnt have AK.

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how often do you think villain slowplays KK/QQ here preflop?
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:02 PM
The.Accountant The.Accountant is offline
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Default Re: I has an overpair

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Looks like a pretty easy fold. I doubt CO is overpushing with TT here.

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if im folding JJ doesnt that make it a damn good play?

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Why?

The fish has something here and villain doesnt have AK.

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Because villain, if he does have AK, is thinking about what carnivalhobo thinks he has and making a raise that he knows that he can't call with JJ (then again, it's probably -EV, especially mutiway, right?)

I remember reading in NLHE theory and practice that if you insist on thinking on multiple levels to thwart the expert who knows that you can't call here with JJ, you'll get exploited by the amateur who thinks much less deeply, "I have QQ+, I shove" , which will happen much more often.
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Old 06-24-2007, 09:03 PM
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Default Re: I has an overpair

i see the SB having a set, and the CO having AA, or KK here. easy fold.
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