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Old 06-23-2007, 04:15 PM
youcanhaveitall youcanhaveitall is offline
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Default NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

I haven't played much with villian yet, running 25/21 over 325 hands. All comes from datamining though, so havent played much more than an orbit with him yet.
Do you like the play, or is turn spew?


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

Hero (SB): $363.85
BB: $37.00
UTG: $301.40
CO: $200.00
BTN: $200.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">UTG raises to $7.00</font>, 2 folds, Hero calls $6.00, BB calls $5.00

Flop: ($21) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 Players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $15.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $48.00</font>, BB folds, UTG calls $33.00

Turn: ($117) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
Hero checks, <font color="red">UTG bets $60.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $308.85</font>
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:18 PM
Imrahil Imrahil is offline
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

I 3bet PF. As played I usually just lead turn but this is sorta sexy although I'm not sure he's folding.
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:19 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

i would rr pf, but given you didnt...

i would bet the turn. it looks super strong, and the majority of his range (larger pairs imo) cannot usually continue.
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:21 PM
youcanhaveitall youcanhaveitall is offline
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

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i would rr pf, but given you didnt...

i would bet the turn. it looks super strong, and the majority of his range (larger pairs imo) cannot usually continue.

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When you say that his range can't continue I assume that you mean if I RR pf right?
Otherwise I dont think he is going anywhere to a psb on the turn...
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:23 PM
cbloom cbloom is offline
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

Yeah, lead turn for $70. If called usually give up on the river, but if it's a 5 then shove.
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Old 06-23-2007, 04:48 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

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i would rr pf, but given you didnt...

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also I am curious to why you want to RR pf.
It might very well be a leak for me, but it just seems that when an unknown raise utg and have implied odds with to call with almost anything, its not a great spot to be oop in.
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Old 06-23-2007, 05:03 PM
ar0use ar0use is offline
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

You rr preflop for:
a) Not giving SC odds to try and catch.
b) Getting value from weaker hands who call
c) Getting info

No ?
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Old 06-23-2007, 05:06 PM
Mossberg Mossberg is offline
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

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i would rr pf, but given you didnt...

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also I am curious to why you want to RR pf.
It might very well be a leak for me, but it just seems that when an unknown raise utg and have implied odds with to call with almost anything, its not a great spot to be oop in.

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unknown? He's a loosish TAG who will have a wide range from UTG. You're ahead of alot of that range, and you're OOP, so it's best to repop. Since you're a little deep, you can 3bet a bigger than usual to give him worse odds.
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Old 06-23-2007, 05:10 PM
EddieRooo EddieRooo is offline
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

I don't like the check raise because of the flop action (check raise, check raise FTW?). If you had a set or straight you would certainly lead turn again. His bet looks like an overpair getting some value/protection vs your weird line and I'm really not sure he will fold a high pair here if he thinks it through.
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Old 06-23-2007, 05:11 PM
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Default Re: NL 200: Crai turn with draw - sexy or no?

With such deep stacks, I prefer playing this draw passively, check-calling the flop and turn, leading small with a fake blocker bet if I hit the river, check-raising turn if i Hit.
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