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Old 06-22-2007, 07:25 PM
74o_Clownsuit 74o_Clownsuit is offline
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Default 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

Unknown Villian, am I just being too afraid to stick it in with an overpair in rr pots lately?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $412.05
BB: $123.25
Hero (UTG): $101.50
CO: $120.10
BTN: $100.00

Preflop: Hero is dealt J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (5 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $3.50</font>, 2 folds, SB calls $3.00, <font color="red">BB raises to $12.00</font>, Hero calls $8.50, SB folds

Flop: ($27.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $15.00</font>, Hero calls $15.00

Turn: ($57.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $35.00</font>, Hero???
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:27 PM
SykoraG SykoraG is offline
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

To me that c-bet is so weak, I'd raise it to 40 right there and call a push. Then again alot of villains try to price you in if they can narrow your range down to high PP's after you cold call 3bets. Id get it AI on the turn.
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

call flop, fold turn is std against unknowns

I don't like raising the flop
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:31 PM
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

raising the flop to call a push is horrible....those smallish bets mean im scared or im huge...raising is wrong in both those places...as correclty played call turn and eval riv...prob fold to any real bet as he's not timidly betting the flop to then triple barrel big the river
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:35 PM
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

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raising the flop to call a push is horrible....those smallish bets mean im scared or im huge...raising is wrong in both those places...as correclty played call turn and eval riv...prob fold to any real bet as he's not timidly betting the flop to then triple barrel big the river

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Note the stack sizes. I will have 1/3 of the pot size left in my stack on the river if I call here.
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:37 PM
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

calling and folding river sucks, get it in now or fold i vote fold
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

im stoned and not seeing small details like that...u right that given stacks turn is fold or shove i fold here
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Old 06-22-2007, 07:39 PM
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call flop, fold turn is std against unknowns


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Old 06-22-2007, 07:41 PM
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Default Re: 100NL JJ in 3-bet Pot Yay

a side note: Every once in a while, when im in villians position, I make a similar play with AK or AQ because I figure hero is weak enough to go through the exact thought process you are facing here. Reads in this spot are paramount, and I would have to have some table feel to really make a solid answer as to what to do on the turn here- a fold seems OK though
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