bad calldown?

[rzk]

villain is 26/20/2.5, SB is 53/7

Full Tilt Poker
Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $3/$6
5 players
Converter

Pre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises</font>, Button folds, SB calls, <font color="#cc0000">BB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6SB, 3 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls, SB folds.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6BB, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Results:
Final pot: 8BB

[yourface]

pot size is messed up

you still beat AK therefor call
kind of a crude rule and it applies more to capped pots but I think you're good here enough of the time

if you're going to fold a brick river you should fold on the flop or turn instead

[freewheeler]

I'd be inclined to cap PF in this spot since SB probably has nothing and you have position. I would definitely raise the flop here hoping to get rid of SB's overcard(s) and to see what BB does. If villain then 3bets flop HU I may give up on turn, but otherwise I'm definitely taking the free card or calling down. Lots of TAGs will play strong draws strongly and there's a decent chance that BB would play 2 spades, KTs, or AK exactly like this.

[PokerSparky]

I think the river is a fold. Not that I actually do it.

[sethypooh21]

If you're folding here, it has to be the turn when you miss all your back door out cards, not the river.

Also, with LP SB in there, cap PF for value.

[sharpie]

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If you're folding here, it has to be the turn when you miss all your back door out cards, not the river.

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I disagree. TAG is usually betting AK/99 on the turn, but not on the river.

[Cobretti]

I don't like the line.

I would be inclined to raise the turn. I don't like giving players free shots. You also may get him to fold a J.

[emKay]

Cobrettidude,

are you serious?
That's like the third hand you advocate raising the flop/turn with near crap hands for some weird reasons.

[Oink]

This hand plays so much easier when yoy just cap pre and take it from there

[Cobretti]

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Cobrettidude,

are you serious?
That's like the third hand you advocate raising the flop/turn with near crap hands for some weird reasons.

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Yes. If I am going to pay him off, I would rather put the 2 bets in on the turn where I have some fold equity. In general, I think it is a losing strategy to simply call down medium pocket pairs when there are overcards like this.