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Old 06-21-2007, 08:10 PM
knowledgeORbust knowledgeORbust is offline
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Default QQ tough flop.

I really, really have trouble folding here. My gut told me to fold but ehhh... is this standard?
Villain is 20/17/3.05 over 225 hands.
Calling and seeing what villain does on the turn is an option, but I'm thinking this is mainly a push/fold situation. Thoughts?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

BB ($25.70)
UTG ($16.55)
MP ($16.45)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($27.05)</font>
<font color="#C00000">SB ($36.90)</font>

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $1</font>, SB calls $0.90, BB calls $0.75.

Flop: ($3) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $2</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $6.25</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $35.9</font>, Hero calls $6.05 (All-In).

Turn: ($64.95) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($64.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $64.95
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:44 PM
HighSteaks HighSteaks is offline
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Default Re: QQ tough flop.

Nice play by him, hard to find a fold to his cr in that spot, could be with a hand your way ahead of.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:53 PM
Thorv Thorv is offline
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Default Re: QQ tough flop.

He flopped a set.
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:53 PM
ajml ajml is offline
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Default Re: QQ tough flop.

I call and say nh to villain
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Old 06-21-2007, 08:56 PM
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Default Re: QQ tough flop.

Tough one. I don't think I can lay this down even after his c/r.
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Old 06-21-2007, 09:31 PM
StubbornRussian StubbornRussian is offline
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Default Re: QQ tough flop.

Against a player with bad stats or bad play I think you get this in all day long because often enough they cant get rid of smaller overpairs to the board. Against this villain I dont like pushing Queens. This villain is probably not stacking off with jacks tens or nines here and if he has a flush draw that he is willing to stack off to then it is probably to the nut flush or second nut flush meaning he has at least twelve outs. So you are just a small favorite over the only hands that you are ahead of and way behind to anything else he calls with. I like a call to make sure he is not just checking to see if his sevens are good and you have missed overs. If you call he will probably give you credit for an overpair and will shut down.
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