2/4 LIVE draw in position

[Kala1928]

2/4 at Mandalay Bay
Couple of LAGs (didn't think any of them were really good) and some nits at the table. The LAGs are basically more like loose-passives than actual good lags. I bluffed off my stack to some young british kid in the first hand and mucked the river after he called and reloaded. Then won a couple of pots.
Villain is some odd young kid sitting with about 800$ (racks of red fives). He seems somehow a bit nitty and scared. I have about 500-550$, cant remember for sure.

Loose older guy limps, villain raises to 20$ UTG+1 I call with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] on the button, blinds fold.

Flop is 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="blue">Older guy checks, raiser checks, I blurt out something like "Guess I have to bet" and bet 45$ (Pot was 67$). Older guy folds, raiser calls rather fast.</font>

Turn is (2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Pot is 157$
Raiser leads out for 50$ (???), I call (?).
<font color="blue">I guess I could raise but I really dont know what he has here, maybe A5 maybe A-high flush draw, 56 too, overpairs if he plays really weird. Anyway I thought that I have a load of outs and I don't wanna get too frisky here and just called.</font>

River is (2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Pot is 257$
Raiser leads for 100$, I just call.
<font color="blue">Well I hit my flush but its like the lowest possible flush. I was tired and hungry while playing so my brain didn't really function at the highest possible rate so I just pretty quickly called him but since he bet so little I guess I could make it 200$, 300$. Shoving is a bit too much (maybe). Not sure how my flop comment makes my hand seem, perhaps less like I hit a flush?</font>

[JackAll]

How about raise to 300 and fold to a shove?

Turn doesn't look so good odds-wise if you only get so little on the river when u hit.

[rc9]

I would raise the turn almost always, you're ahead of a nut flush draw, A5 isn't all that likely...i guess 56 is possible, but you have enough outs if that's the case. River is fine as played.

[Kala1928]

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How about raise to 300 and fold to a shove?

Turn doesn't look so good odds-wise if you only get so little on the river when u hit.

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When he bets 50$ into a 157$ pot and we have pair + gutterball + fd? Cmon.

[JackAll]

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How about raise to 300 and fold to a shove?

Turn doesn't look so good odds-wise if you only get so little on the river when u hit.

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When he bets 50$ into a 157$ pot and we have pair + gutterball + fd? Cmon.

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I meant on the river.

[Kala1928]

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How about raise to 300 and fold to a shove?

Turn doesn't look so good odds-wise if you only get so little on the river when u hit.

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When he bets 50$ into a 157$ pot and we have pair + gutterball + fd? Cmon.

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I meant on the river.

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I have direct odds to call turn so the call is ok even if the river goes check-check.

[Teph]

minraise river say something stupid to induce a bluff all in from villain.

Calling on the river is so criminal nitto

[blankoblanco]

i'd make it $250 on river

[JackAll]

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How about raise to 300 and fold to a shove?

Turn doesn't look so good odds-wise if you only get so little on the river when u hit.

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When he bets 50$ into a 157$ pot and we have pair + gutterball + fd? Cmon.

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I meant on the river.

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I have direct odds to call turn so the call is ok even if the river goes check-check.

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Ah sry - misread. Thought it was 50 in a pot of 57, not 157.

[Eihli]

wtf is with everyone saying raise/fold river and [censored]? do any of you actually read the hands posted?

hero started the hand with 500-550

putt 120 in by the river leaving him with 400 left. if he calls he'll be able to raise 300 more. are you saying he should raise to 300 and fold for 100 more?