100NL, A-7 suited

Sparta45 · #1 06-21-2007, 07:23 AM

Is it okay to call the EP raise? If not, how deep should he be to change the answer to yes? Please comment on all other streets as well.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

SB ($106.60)
BB ($145.05)
UTG ($68.40)
UTG+1 ($60.50)
MP1 ($100)
Hero ($164.90)
MP3 ($36.20)
CO ($93.15)
Button ($167.95)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to $3, 2 folds, Hero calls $3, 5 folds.

Flop: ($7.50) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero raises to $12, UTG calls $9.

Turn: ($31.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $3, Hero calls $3.

River: ($37.50) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG bets $5, Hero calls $5.

Final Pot: $47.50

TheChad · #2 06-21-2007, 07:29 AM

I don't mind the flop call here. I think I would have raised the turn here to find out where I was (somewhere around 15-20ish). I love making plays like this against scared money and weak nits. What were his stats?

Sparta45 · #3 06-21-2007, 07:36 AM

Well, I re-raised the flop....so are you saying you would have re-raised the turn also?? I don't remember his stats unfortunately.

TheChad · #4 06-21-2007, 07:43 AM

okay, I'll assume general tag. I def don't like the re-raise on the flop. I think calling is fine with folding a VERY close second. re-popping it screams overpair, shoving you into set country. I dunno, I guess I just don't see someone at these stakes not "paying you off" for your set. I float and see what's up on turn with the intention of ditching.

TheChad · #5 06-21-2007, 07:45 AM

the reason I like floating here is for a reason I've been working out recently. If you show strength and most of the board is out (ie you're on the turn or river), most people are content to give it to you.

HaiaN · #6 06-21-2007, 08:30 AM

this is exactly how I would have played it against a retard like that.

TheChad · #7 06-21-2007, 08:43 AM

wow, I completely misread the hand. yeah, I dig it + raise the turn.

Rainclouds · #8 06-21-2007, 08:51 AM

Looks good to me. I generally just fold preflop, but calling is not bad if UTG is a bad player.

I like the flop raise. You make draws and overcards pay, and since your hand has good slowdown value and it slows villain down on the turn and the river, you can get a cheap showdown. His retarded turn and river mini bets are easy calls.

lank4ever · #9 06-21-2007, 09:52 AM

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Looks good to me. I generally just fold preflop, but calling is not bad if UTG is a bad player.

I like the flop raise. You make draws and overcards pay, and since your hand has good slowdown value and it slows villain down on the turn and the river, you can get a cheap showdown. His retarded turn and river mini bets are easy calls.

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I think turn is a raise to whatever you would raise a set to.

Edit I also think this is a fold pf w/o >0 reads. Give me at least stats.

Zealot · #10 06-21-2007, 09:57 AM

Fold pre-flop is standard I think, Make it the CO or button and you can call more often. How deep u are doesnt realy matter in this case, its your position that matters. With many people behind u to squeeze, call with sc's and pairs u just cant make enough out of A7s.

As played, I raise the flop too. I call the turn and river like u did for information and expect to win from a low pair a lot.

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