NL25 FR: facing a river shove with baby flush on paired board

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Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
9 players
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Stack sizes:
UTG: $27
UTG+1: $47.95
MP1: $17.70
MP2: $14.75
MP3: $3.90
CO: $27.85
Hero: $38.40
SB: $18.35
BB: $37.90

UTG is a 20.37/9.35/1.48 over 535 hands, river AF is 2.43.

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is Button with 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to $0.75</font>, 2 folds, MP2 calls, 2 folds, Hero calls, 2 folds.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($2.6, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $1</font>, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ($4.6, 2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($4.6, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">UTG bets $2</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $6</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises all-in $25.25</font>, Hero?

I feel like I'm not beating much here, is a standard fold given villains' stats?

What kinds of stats warrant a call here?

I'm snap calling with the nut flush here, so where do I draw the line against 20/10's ?

[the_rookie]

Easy fold.

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Is this a call if the board isn't paired?

[coordi]

you beat nothing except a horribly played A7. fold every time.

[coordi]

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Is this a call if the board isn't paired?

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Player dependant, but normally no. That 2 is a blank except for the flush, villain has higher flush almost always.

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Ok, so how many lower flushes need to be in villain's range to warrant a call?

[oakrdrzfan]

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Ok, so how many lower flushes need to be in villain's range to warrant a call?

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I don't understand your question, because you have the lowest flush and can not beat another one. The paired board makes this even more dangerous.

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Ok to rephrase that question, what if I had the ace high flush in this scenario? Then there would be a lot of lower flushes that villain could have and I would certainly call his all in.

But where do I draw the line? Am I calling with the jack high flush here? what about the nine high flush?

Now you should see what I meant before. If I held a flush higher than the lowest possible flush then I could add lower flushes than mine to villain's range and therefore be beating part of his range.

If villain's range consists of full houses and flushes here, how high of a flush do I need to have to make a call profitable? i.e. how many lower flushes than mine do I need to be able to add to his range in order to be able to call, given that he could have a full house or a higher flush as well?

I would say that I'm certainly calling with the ace high and king high flush here. I'm not sure about anything lower though, thoughts?

[KurtSF]

Yeah, that's a fold.

Did you call? Did he have QQ?

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Yes, and yes. But I've already established that it was a terrible call. What I'm wondering about now is THIS post:

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Ok to rephrase that question, what if I had the ace high flush in this scenario? Then there would be a lot of lower flushes that villain could have and I would certainly call his all in.

But where do I draw the line? Am I calling with the jack high flush here? what about the nine high flush?

Now you should see what I meant before. If I held a flush higher than the lowest possible flush then I could add lower flushes than mine to villain's range and therefore be beating part of his range.

If villain's range consists of full houses and flushes here, how high of a flush do I need to have to make a call profitable? i.e. how many lower flushes than mine do I need to be able to add to his range in order to be able to call, given that he could have a full house or a higher flush as well?

I would say that I'm certainly calling with the ace high and king high flush here. I'm not sure about anything lower though, thoughts?



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