Expectations in popular mix games(chinese, triple draw, badugi)

[brandon]

What kind of return can a good player expect to get on his money in games like triple draw, badugi, and chinese?

Those games are very popular in Ca and Vegas. Ive read that there is a much bigger luck factor involved in those 3 games when compared to hold em.

If we say that limit omaha 8 stands to give the expert the biggest return on his money, and limit hold em gives the expert a lower return on his money than omaha, where do the other games fit?