6.50 Stars...folded AKs pf

cougar62 · #1 06-19-2007, 10:04 PM

UTG is 25% roi 8 tabler. No read on other villian. I figure at best I'm a dog to one if not both...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1545)
SB (t2420)
BB (t2000)
UTG (t1270)
UTG+1 (t1470)
MP1 (t1450)
MP2 (t2325)
CO (t1020)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG raises to t90, 2 folds, MP2 raises to t240, 1 fold, Hero calls t240, 2 folds, UTG raises to t510, MP2 raises to t2325, Hero folds, UTG calls t760 (All-In).

Final Pot: t3880

Do we shove after the first reraise? Get out then? Call the all ins?

Prodigy54321 · #2 06-19-2007, 10:09 PM

I'd just fold at my first action...

do you know what UTG's range is likely to be?..AK, JJ+?..maybe TT or 99 and maybe AQ...

he is 8 tabling which typically means that he won't be playing very tricky early on..

and that's just him..MP2's range can't be much wider, even for an unkown..

the reason I wouldn't call the t240 even is that UTG is probably pushing most of the hands he is raising here UTG..

this all depends on UTG though..I think that a general read, 8 tabler with 25% ROI is enough to just fold.

dw2006 · #3 06-19-2007, 10:14 PM

Just fold preflop.

cougar62 · #4 06-19-2007, 10:42 PM

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I'd just fold at my first action...

do you know what UTG's range is likely to be?..AK, JJ+?..maybe TT or 99 and maybe AQ...

he is 8 tabling which typically means that he won't be playing very tricky early on..

and that's just him..MP2's range can't be much wider, even for an unkown..

the reason I wouldn't call the t240 even is that UTG is probably pushing most of the hands he is raising here UTG..

this all depends on UTG though..I think that a general read, 8 tabler with 25% ROI is enough to just fold.

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All that makes a lot of sense...thanks. Another question for you (or anyone else), take MP out of the equation, and make it 90 to me on the button against this villian...reraise, knowing it's probably gonna end up being all my chips back at me? Or just call and look at a flop? I can't see laying this down to just an UTG raise from a good player even early.

Kevin8423 · #5 06-19-2007, 10:44 PM

Definitley call if its 90 to you. I might shove anyway in this spot but if you know for sure he is very solid I guess you can lay it down.

Stake Monster · #6 06-19-2007, 10:53 PM

you played it well.

React1oN · #7 06-20-2007, 12:19 AM

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you played it well.

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jimmytrick · #8 06-20-2007, 12:53 AM

The pot is laying you nice odds, eh?

ADLinden · #9 06-20-2007, 02:41 AM

i think im only folding because i know he is a good player, if not, i might just shove

cougar62 · #10 06-20-2007, 03:18 AM

Well, I'm putting him on QQ or better. I could be wrong, and the 25% roi is over only 250 tourneys, but the point is he has a clue and if he's 8-tabling he's probably not trying to run some cute play at this point. I just find this interesting because I'm never folding without that info and just wondering if I'm over-valuing that.