$100NL - Queens on button vs possible resteal attempt

[Will_Son]

Villain is 35/17 over 79 hands Flop AF of 8.

I thought the best play would be to 4-bet here but a friend of mine thought calling and shoving a non-A or K flop would have greater value. Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

-----------------------------------

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players

SB: $85.25
BB: $102.10
UTG: $102.60
CO: $109.10
Hero (BTN): $119.40

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q Q (5 Players)
2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, SB raises to $14.00, BB folds, Hero ????

[Logun]

If you 4-bet you have to call a shove correct?

so then would it not be better to 4bet shove yourself rather than let him be the shover?

[VPIP100]

Your friend line seems good vs a restealer.

[Claunchy]

I like a call here. If villain is 3-betting you with a lot of marginal holdings, we don't want to fold those out. Calling allows villain to fire more money in with a c-bet, and possibly even more if he catches a piece of the flop.

[a50cNtPCe]

If you can find a copy of super systems the bible of poker, there is a really good section on playing high pairs, even a section just for playing QQ's and QQ's only. If you raise and either a A or K hit the flop you will slow down. As what Claunchy says says. Calling looks like your hand isn't overly strong and will promote a possible CBet from villian. Calling is the right play for you here.

[Will_Son]

One question I have is, is this a good line because of how short the opponent is? Is there a difference between choosing this line of play when the opponent and yourself are more deepstacked?

[TheChad]

Hmmmm.... He's only a 35/17. I'd give him a little bit of credit. I call and get it in on a non ace flop. If he shoves first, I can get away and find a better spot. There's only $29 in the pot at that point. He's obvy throwing pot control to the wind. If he flops a set or an ace, good for him, else, good for us.

[pokerchap]

[ QUOTE ]
Hmmmm.... He's only a 35/17. I'd give him a little bit of credit. I call and get it in on a non ace flop. If he shoves first, I can get away and find a better spot. There's only $29 in the pot at that point. He's obvy throwing pot control to the wind. If he flops a set or an ace, good for him, else, good for us.

[/ QUOTE ]

What about a K flop?

[TheChad]

as for the k-high flop, feel it out and don't be afraid to get in his face.