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Old 06-19-2007, 10:11 AM
Jigsaws Jigsaws is offline
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Default 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

Unknown villain, second hand at the table.

My instinct here is to check, but I think that's wrong. There's really not any missed draws he can bluff with, but maybe he somehow has a pair + [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] he can look me up with? What's my bet size?

Poker Stars - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

<u>Hero (SB): $198.00</u>
<u>BB: $208.95</u>
UTG: $278.70
MP: $131.30
CO: $223.95
BTN: $159.50

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
4 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, BB calls $6.00

Flop: ($16) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00

Turn: ($40) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $32.00</font>, BB calls $32.00

River: ($104) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:12 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

$40 blocker
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:24 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

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$40 blocker

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and call a raise or fold to a raise?

I hate a blocking bet in this spot because it represent exactly what you have and Villain could easily bluff raise you.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:33 AM
2Paul2 2Paul2 is offline
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

Bet 50 and get called by a ton of pair+[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] hands.

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Old 06-19-2007, 10:40 AM
FoldEqu1ty FoldEqu1ty is offline
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

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$40 blocker

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and call a raise or fold to a raise?

I hate a blocking bet in this spot because it represent exactly what you have and Villain could easily bluff raise you.

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Exactly. Hyper-easy check-call for me. He bluffs with a much much higher range than he calls with.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

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$40 blocker

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and call a raise or fold to a raise?

I hate a blocking bet in this spot because it represent exactly what you have and Villain could easily bluff raise you.

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Exactly. Hyper-easy check-call for me. He bluffs with a much much higher range than he calls with.

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That's just false.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:17 AM
FoldEqu1ty FoldEqu1ty is offline
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

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$40 blocker

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and call a raise or fold to a raise?

I hate a blocking bet in this spot because it represent exactly what you have and Villain could easily bluff raise you.

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Exactly. Hyper-easy check-call for me. He bluffs with a much much higher range than he calls with.

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That's just false.

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You've led OOP twice and the board is four-flush - what on earth do you think he is calling with?
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:39 AM
AFennewald AFennewald is offline
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

yeah I'd bet 65. He is probebly calling smaller herts alot but I'm not sure that he would bluff here much.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:39 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

I think he is just saying that is calling range is a bit wider than his betting range. Like he may call with 8h8x but not bet himself.
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:40 AM
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Default Re: 200NL, second nut flush on river, value bet, right?

There arent many hands that a std villain will turn into a bluff when checked to here, even fewer he would bluffraise a small bet with readless, so yeah i like the idea of a blocker.
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