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Old 06-18-2007, 09:18 AM
mortimo mortimo is offline
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Default $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

I can`t find a converter for ongame..I guess I should have bet more on the flop? Villian had folded 24 hands/raised 0% /seen the flop 16%..Could be some errors here..

Villian has a platinium-star at 9-10 seated leaderbord $36-$100 average profit (21% roi over 770 games)

NO_LIMIT TEXAS_HOLDEM $100+$8 (Real Money),


Seat 1: player 2 ($1,840 in chips)
Seat 2: player 3 ($1,800 in chips)
Seat 3: HERO ($1,960 in chips)
Seat 4: player 5 ($1,575 in chips)
Seat 5: player 6 ($1,910 in chips)
Seat 6: player 7 ($2,580 in chips)
Seat 7: player 8 ($1,880 in chips)
Seat 8: player 9 ($2,205 in chips)
Seat 9: player 10 ($1,980 in chips)
Seat 10: Villian ($2,270 in chips)

Hero (J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img])

ANTES/BLINDS
player 9 posts blind ($15), player 10 posts blind ($30).

PRE-FLOP
Villian calls $30, 2 folds..HERO bets $120, 4 folds.., player 9 calls $105, player 10 folds, Villian calls $90.

FLOP [board cards 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] ] pot (t390)
player 9 checks, Villian checks, HERO bets $275, player 9 folds, Villian calls $275.

TURN [board cards 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ] pot (t940)
Villian checks, HERO checks.

RIVER [board cards 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img],6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img],Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] ]
Villian bets $1,875 and is all-in, HERO?
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:26 AM
Velocity Velocity is offline
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

Strong winners don't overbet bluff here very often. They also don't valueshove anything you beat. Fold.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:30 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

770 is a pretty small sample size but 21% ROI is huge so lets assume he is very good. Your sample size of hands vs him is tiny so you can almost throw that out. You know he is a solid player so he probably know how to play L1.

Villian open limps from UG. Then after you raise he just calls. Looks a lot like 66-TT, maybe AJs AQs AKo AKs, possibly KQs. Can't think of many hands he would do this with. Also, I'm leaning towards 66-TT.

Flop - he check/calls a petty big bet. I would take AQo and AKo out of his range. He might reraise with AKs or AQs but those are possible. Could still have 66-TT. Being out of position I think he folding 66-88. So that leaves 99 TT.

Turn - well, the diamond gave him the flush darw if he was going for it. So at this point I think you are ahead of TT. I'd check behind on the turn and hope to get to a cheap showdown or spike a J on the river.

River - easy fold.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

You're going to see a pocket pair limping in ep a lot in this spot. I'd say 22-99 are in his range for limping utg. I'd say he isn't pushing a diamond flush that you're beating, and it's more than likely he has 99s full of twos/quad twos. I really don't think he floats you with 88s or under.

I think you have to fold this because you're in good shape with 1565 at 15/30, and the only you're hand you're beating is TxTd.
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Old 06-18-2007, 09:38 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

What would you put him on preflop?
River is a fold, I know
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:47 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

I think he has 99 here extremeley often. You don't really beat anything on the river. A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]/A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] are also possible.
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Old 06-19-2007, 09:51 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

I skipped to the hand and saw the ? after the river my bad. I check the turn here. The only part of his flop calling range that we beat is medium pockets pairs, say 88. If we bet turn, all the hands we are ahead of and have down to 2 outs fold, while everything that beats us stays in.

After a turn check, valuebet a blank river, and call a blank river if villian leads.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:40 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

You don't really beat anything on the river. A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]/A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] / A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]i think

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99 is unlikely without bet on the turn .
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Old 06-19-2007, 11:19 AM
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Default Re: $108 JJ scary board..Bet turn?

Guess he has something like 99 or 22 lots of the time in this spot. I don't think a winning player is limping many Ax [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] from UTG, and then calling a raise. Pretty sure AT/AJ is not in his range for this play, but AK may be. Also, I guess he's less likely to be drawing to a flush at a paired flop. I liked the way you played the hand
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