value betting river

[yimc17]

I am really trying to work on value betting the river. I just want to know if you guys would value bet these rivers and if so, how much? I think both of these situations are bet, then fold if raised. I am just not sure if there is that much value in betting.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($37.25)
UTG ($26.90)
MP ($11.10)
CO ($33.35)
Button ($29.30)
SB ($11.25)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, Button calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, Button calls $4.50.

Turn: ($16.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: ($16.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero ....


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero ($114.60)
MP ($26.35)
Button ($16.65)
SB ($32.10)
BB ($24.65)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]. Hero posts a blind of $0.35.
Hero (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($0.85) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets $0.75</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, SB folds, BB calls $2.25.

Turn: ($6.85) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $4.5</font>, BB calls $4.50.

River: ($15.85) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero....

[youngmachetes]

both look like bet/fold situations, because he is calling with worse in both. all jacks are calling in hand one i would imagine, and in hand two if you're c/r then you can let it go. but yes, you should vbet in both hands. anywhere from 1/2-3/4 pot seems fine.

[Check_The_Nuts]

hand 1 I bet 9-10. Hand 2 I check usually unless villian is really really terrible or my image is incredibly bad.