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Old 06-17-2007, 02:45 PM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

i know how much you guys hate seeing results but i feel like possibly i am losing more money in these situations than i should be. making me a losing player instead of a break even player.


Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $25.10
BB: $28.75
Hero (UTG): $19.30
MP: $45.35
CO: $8.80
BTN: $24.65

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.00, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">BTN raises to $6.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $18.30</font>, BTN calls $12.30

Turn: ($38.95) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($38.95) T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $38.95 ($1.90 Rake)

BTN had 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (a full house, Sevens full of Tens) and WON (+$17.75)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Tens) and LOST (-$19.30)

in this hand i figure the villian could have a flush draw, straight draw, a10, jj, qq

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.10/$0.25 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $18.80
BB: $17.15
Hero (UTG): $19.10
MP: $37.40
CO: $25.15
BTN: $24.90

Preflop: Hero is dealt K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
<font color="red">Hero raises to $1.00</font>, MP calls $1.00, 4 folds

Flop: ($2.35) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">Hero bets $2.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises all-in to $18.10</font>, MP calls $13.10

Turn: ($38.55) T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

River: ($38.55) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players - 1 All-In)

Pot Size: $38.55 ($1.90 Rake)

MP had 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (a full house, Sixes full of Fives) and WON (+$17.55)
Hero had K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (two pair, Kings and Fives) and LOST (-$19.10)

again i figure a straight draw, flush draw, any pp, 6x
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:47 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

Go broke both times, buy in for full amount.
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Old 06-17-2007, 02:49 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

Both of the hands are pretty draw heavy, I´d call as well... but read help here tremendously...
against a 16/8/0.5 I´d never call but against a 30/10/4 it´s a completely different story...
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:06 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

Both played well IMO.
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Old 06-17-2007, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

[ QUOTE ]
Both of the hands are pretty draw heavy, I´d call as well... but read help here tremendously...
against a 16/8/0.5 I´d never call but against a 30/10/4 it´s a completely different story...

[/ QUOTE ]

QFT
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:13 PM
jerryf1914 jerryf1914 is offline
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

[ QUOTE ]
Both of the hands are pretty draw heavy, I´d call as well... but read help here tremendously...
against a 16/8/0.5 I´d never call but against a 30/10/4 it´s a completely different story...

[/ QUOTE ]

what is a 16/8/0.5 beating you with most of the time to justify folding?
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

Both look standard to me.
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Old 06-17-2007, 08:58 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

I would say the opposite...You are not losing enough...Buy in full stack..You want to be able to win the max when you hit BIG...

These 2 hands are not an issue..Absent a solid read they are played perfectly...

Post some TP and other marginal pair type hands...Losing is often not extracting enough $$$$ in marginal situations(or losing too much)...Look to better utilize position...
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:02 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

I treat KK like AA when an ace doesn't flop.
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Old 06-17-2007, 09:20 PM
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Default Re: am i losing more money than i should in these 2 hands?

In both hands, 3-betting allin on the flop is terrible.
Your hand becomes obvious and you are not getting a worse hand to call. You force your opponent to play perfectly.

Call the raise and see the turn.
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