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Old 02-21-2006, 07:28 PM
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Default TT in BB - playing sets

Background - first hand post. I just moved up to 2/4 and am loving it, but I know I need to be even more aggressive than I have been so far. I def missed the part of SSHE that suggested 3-betting TT. Here I'm thinking I should have reraised on the flop since UTG+1 is LAG/scary board? The others in the hand are both passive.

Just trying to figure out how/where to extract more bets with sets. Enough editorial:

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $2/$4
7 players
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Pre-flop: (7 players) Heroine is BB with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG calls, <font color="#cc3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, 3 folds, SB calls, Heroine calls, UTG calls.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8SB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Heroine bets</font>, UTG calls, <font color="#cc3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, SB calls, Heroine calls, UTG calls.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (8BB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Heroine bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, SB calls.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (12BB, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc3333">Heroine bets</font>, UTG calls, 2 folds.

Results:
Final pot: 14BB
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:33 PM
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

3-bet the flop. rest is standard.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:36 PM
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

:grunch:

Preflop is fine.

Three bet the flop depending on the read you have of the players involved.

Turn and river are standard.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:39 PM
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

Why didn't you three bet the flop? Am I gonna have to start killing kittens again?
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:50 PM
ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S is offline
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

you misspelled heroin. <font color="white"> (joke) </font>

3bet the flop, push your equity against the callers. without 2 coming a long for the ride here we could try a little FPS; but here we have to just value pump
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:51 PM
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Am I gonna have to start killing kittens again?

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Unfortunately, I think you do...
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:57 PM
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

3-bet pre-flop (hand changes after that)
on flop, bet/3-bet--see you've got SB trapped there, and UTG is probably gonna call 2 more, esp if he has a flush draw.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:58 PM
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

You've already mentioned reraising PR, so that's a given.

I would 3-bet the flop giving you a chance to get it capped when/if UTG +1 caps.

Lead out on the Turn as you did and lead the river as you did if UTG +1 just calls the turn. If it gets raised, I would call the turn and check call the river. Not sure if this is weak/tight, but I want to show this hand down.
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Old 02-21-2006, 07:59 PM
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3-bet pre-flop


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You are right. I missed that.
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:06 PM
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Default Re: TT in BB - playing sets

Let me make a counter argument here.

Your against a limp and a raise from EP. Any over card flop with no set looks bad.

So your position is bad for trying anything tricky if you miss the flop when you raised. Your position is excellent to play tricky if you have a good flop and you smooth call PF.

To put it another way, your only geting the value out of your PF raise if you have a good flop, but this value is less than the value you would gain post flop by smooth calling. Your position wrecks normal mental impact on your opponents because you are going to have to check to them most of the time.

What do you think?
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