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Old 06-16-2007, 01:27 PM
Clever Nickname Clever Nickname is offline
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Default 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

I haven't seen too many hands with the villian yet, but so far he seems to be very loose pf, something like 50/20 over a small sample size. I haven't seen enough hands with him to know how he plays postflop yet.

I'm obviously not going to fold my set here, but I was wondering if anyone likes to value-shove the river instead of just call? I think that it's more likely that he has a set here than a straight. On the other hand, he is pretty loose pf, so it's not out of the question for him to have a 4 here. Thoughts?

Full Tilt Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $1/$2 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $260.75
BB: $453.20
UTG: $200.00
MP: $207.35
Hero (CO): $350.60
BTN: $204.35

Preflop: Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">MP raises to $7.00</font>, Hero calls $7.00, BTN calls $7.00, SB calls $6.00, BB folds

Flop: ($30) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $6.00</font>, <font color="red">MP raises to $24.00</font>, Hero calls $24.00, BTN folds, SB calls $18.00

Turn: ($102) 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $42.00</font>, MP folds, Hero calls $42.00

River: ($186) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets $82.00</font>, Hero calls $82.00
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:33 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

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Old 06-16-2007, 01:34 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

I think it's much more likely for SB to have something like 56 or an overpair. Of course we can't rule our a 4 from his range, but I think I still like pushing the river.
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:35 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

Shove it in yo
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

Take this FWIW...maybe his range is wider?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

69 games 0.016 secs 4,312 games/sec

Board: 5c 2h 6d 3s Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.522% 56.52% 00.00% 39 0.00 { 6h6s }
Hand 1: 43.478% 43.48% 00.00% 30 0.00 { JJ-22, A4s, 54s, A4o, 54o }
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:40 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

3bet flop yo
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:48 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

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3bet flop yo

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Isn't this a really good flop to slowplay on though? The only cards we really don't want to see are a 3 or a 4, and even then it's only because we're afraid of them killing our action. Otherwise, lower sets are still stacking off to us regardless, and I can't see much else calling a flop 3-bet except for a flopped straight. Maybe AA/KK stacks off, but even then I'm not sure.
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Old 06-16-2007, 01:51 PM
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Default Re: 200NL - Value shove a set on a 4-straight board?

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Take this FWIW...maybe his range is wider?

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

69 games 0.016 secs 4,312 games/sec

Board: 5c 2h 6d 3s Ad
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.522% 56.52% 00.00% 39 0.00 { 6h6s }
Hand 1: 43.478% 43.48% 00.00% 30 0.00 { JJ-22, A4s, 54s, A4o, 54o }

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I think he'd be more likely to show up here with a 43s than an A4o given his flop play, but like I said, this guy is very loose and I don't know how he plays postflop yet, so it's gonna be hard to assign an accurate range.
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