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Old 06-15-2007, 04:10 AM
modnareno modnareno is offline
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Default How\'d my whole stack end up in there

Only played like 25 hands so far, but "so far" the CO is pretty loose preflop at like 45/25 and the SB has TAGgy stats. I didn't really think the CO had a great hand when he led the flop, but the SBs shove scares me. But somehow I'm getting like 5:1ish. Is this all close to standard or should i try to find a spot to fold?


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BB ($200)
UTG ($171.80)
Hero ($244.20)
SB ($186)

Preflop: Hero is Button with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $7</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $23</font>, SB calls $22, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls $16.

Flop: ($71) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG bets $49, Hero calls $49, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $163</font>, UTG calls $99.80 (All-In), Hero calls $114.

Final Pot: $545
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: How\'d my whole stack end up in there

fold to the $49 bet. if SB is taggy and cold calls like that, it normally always means PP, normally QQ-AA. Once he pushes, you can pretty much say for sure he has 22, 44, JJ-AA. I think you could have folded to the $49 bet knowing the SB probably has you beat.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:13 AM
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Default Re: How\'d my whole stack end up in there

Raise more preflop...Besides that, it's really hard to tell you to fold here. Let's stove it against a few ranges...
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:22 AM
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

6,374,277 games 0.250 secs 25,497,108 games/sec

Board: 2s 4s Jc
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 22.952% 22.12% 00.83% 1410130 52873.00 { 22+, AKs, AJs, A3s-A2s, KJs, QJs, 53s, 42s, AKo, AJo, A3o-A2o, J8o+, 53o, 42o }
Hand 1: 30.061% 26.54% 03.52% 1692008 224180.00 { AcJh }
Hand 2: 46.987% 44.09% 02.90% 2810474 184612.00 { JJ+, 44, 22, AsKs, AsQs, AsJs, AsTs, As9s, KsQs, KsJs, KsTs, Ks9s, QsJs, QsTs, Qs9s, JsTs, Js9s, Ts9s, AJo, KJo, QJo }
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:26 AM
modnareno modnareno is offline
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Default Re: How\'d my whole stack end up in there

30%! I'll take it.
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Old 06-15-2007, 04:31 AM
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Default Re: How\'d my whole stack end up in there

That's a fairly generous range because it tossed in a wackload of flush draws for the 'better' player.
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Old 06-15-2007, 05:46 AM
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Default Re: How\'d my whole stack end up in there

Fold when SB shoves. Gir - where the hell do come up with those ranges? For both players they are far to wide. 42o, J8o, QJo???
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:05 AM
keikiwai keikiwai is offline
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Default Re: How\'d my whole stack end up in there

your pot odds seem deceptively good, but i think you're drawing super thin or sometimes dead

what hand do you put a TAG who CC pf, and cr-es flop ai vs. TWO players? you're pretty much dead in the water... he cr-ed to trap you expecting that you cannot fold...

i fold flop pretty fast
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:25 AM
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this is horrific.
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Old 06-15-2007, 06:27 AM
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this is horrific.

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my analysis, his play, or both?
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