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Old 06-14-2007, 11:35 AM
Montrealcorp Montrealcorp is offline
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Default hi.too tight?

maybe i was just lucky the last couple of months,but i just got my worst longest beats ever,its lasting couple of weeks now and wondering ,well maybe the succes i had was just lucky and start to reevaluate my plays deeply.
This is one of them:

9player table,Party Poker .5/1

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Button stats : low sample but PFr 3.13,Vpip 18.7
CO stats : (bad) Pfr 11.5,Vpip 53.85
MP+1 : low sample PFr 0 ,Vpip 36
MP+2 :low sample but seems = CO

Preflop: Hero is SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, (CO)raises, Button 3-bets, Hero fold,

im OOP and some of my cards probably are in others players hands
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:39 AM
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Standard.
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Old 06-14-2007, 11:52 AM
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:03 PM
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Default Re: hi.too tight?

wow,usually i would always call this,but like i said lately...
after reviewing my stats on PO i realize there s lot of green wrtting(winnings)in almost all position but the red(losses) are terrible compared to other position(the diffence between this and last couple of month is for once the losses from the blinds exceeds the other positions and by far i most add).
Guess i just found a lick there (and a big one)!

but just to make sure,this is a fold..ok
why? because im OOP
OR
my cards are too likely to be dominated(AK) or in other players hands and cutting my chance to win vs a pair?

wich is the most important?

to make sure i comprehend correctly,if the statements i make upthere is valid,if i had 65s for example ,then a call would of been ok or is it still a mistake ?ty
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: hi.too tight?

AQ plays poorly against legit raises and should usually be folded.

Against a 3bet AQ is usually worthless.

739,715,328 games 0.047 secs 15,738,624,000 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 30.635% 29.66% 00.98% 219373536 7235166.00 { AQo }
Hand 1: 69.365% 68.39% 00.98% 505871460 7235166.00 { TT+, AKs, AKo }
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:29 PM
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Default Re: hi.too tight?

oop and ur equity isnt great against a 3bet, calling 3 cold in the bb with AQo (and even suited) is definitely a leak.
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Old 06-14-2007, 12:41 PM
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i just caught a buzz...even suited wow..
well anywya ty
guess its the cards that takes the worst of it in here and not necesseraly the position
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Old 06-14-2007, 02:56 PM
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Default Re: hi.too tight?

Yeah with AQo I would fold on the button if it's 3 cold to me. AQs it would depend on the game if I was on the button and 3 cold to me but 90% of the time that's a fold too. So small blind is an insta-muck.

It's not position here but I give a lot of respect to 3bets unless I see the same people 3betting and showing down trash.
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Old 06-14-2007, 03:31 PM
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why? because im OOP
OR
my cards are too likely to be dominated(AK) or in other players hands and cutting my chance to win vs a pair?

wich is the most important?

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When playing for 3 or more cold your cards pretty much dictate your play, though your position does make this an even worse call than from the button imo.
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Old 06-14-2007, 09:43 PM
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Default Re: hi.too tight?

wel ty,im so glad i find a dam big lick cause i was doing a lot of call like this in SB.
would u call with it in BB? since u have already a bet in it?(just wondering if the bet u already have paid in BB is worth more then the button,i mean if it s a fold on the button , the button position is not worth a bet but in BB since u already have a bet paid , u might call?)

as for the last question,would u call with for example 76suited in SB or BB and try get lucky since it probably be a 4 way pot( 5 if u count yourself in)?

ty im done after those question answer,i just want to minimize the biggest leak for nowty
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