PS $20 AA early position

JamieO · #1 06-13-2007, 01:17 AM

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1320)
Hero (t1480)
MP1 (t1500)
MP2 (t1500)
MP3 (t1500)
CO (t1500)
Button (t1720)
SB (t1480)
BB (t1500)

Preflop: Hero is in UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, Hero raises to t80, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, MP3 raises to t180, CO folds, Button folds, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls t100

Flop: (t390) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

Turn: (t390) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t120, Hero calls t120

River: (t630) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets t300

Villian was a total unknown. Based on the way the average player at this level plays, I put him on kk, qq, or ak based on the reraise preflop. On the flop when the q hit i figured he either made a set, or he didnt. He would then check his set or bet his overpair. I figured the best play was to check raise a flop bet, or just check the hand all the way and see a showdown as cheap as possible. Since he checked the flop, i felt sure he had top set, but i dont think i could fold for how cheap he made it.
So, how's my line?

DLKeeper1 · #2 06-13-2007, 01:25 AM

I really don't see how you can become so fearful of a specific hand (QQ) with this play. Villain's action represents a bigger range IMO. Check is ok, but I bet flop, turn, and river.

WCGRider · #3 06-13-2007, 01:27 AM

If he has one of the hands you put him on, then why are you not reraising him Preflop? You have the nuts, and he has a strong second best hand, why would you ever want to see a flop right now?

greggg230 · #4 06-13-2007, 01:27 AM

Why just call pre-flop? If he has KK or QQ, you could get all the money in there, unless he's good enough to lay down QQ pre-flop. I play the $13 tables a lot, and unless the $20 folks are way better, a lot of them won't even lay down JJ (and they will re-raise with JJ).

With no bets on the flop, he could have QQ, JJ, AsKs; I'm pretty sure you have to bet here OOP. The bet on the turn looks like he's just trying to steal the pot; 120 into a 360 pot? The whole hand needs to be played more aggressively, IMO.

JamieO · #5 06-13-2007, 01:44 AM

"I really don't see how you can become so fearful of a specific hand (QQ) with this play. Villain's action represents a bigger range IMO. Check is ok, but I bet flop, turn, and river. "
his reraise is most likely kk or qq. if he had kk he would bet the flop. What check? u mean the call preflop?

JamieO · #6 06-13-2007, 01:46 AM

"If he has one of the hands you put him on, then why are you not reraising him Preflop? You have the nuts, and he has a strong second best hand, why would you ever want to see a flop right now?"
Thats a good question, but imo its to early just to shove preflop, i dont think he will call a high percentage of the time. I may be wrong though because the competition at the 20's is pretty low.

JamieO · #7 06-13-2007, 01:48 AM

"With no bets on the flop, he could have QQ, JJ, AsKs; I'm pretty sure you have to bet here OOP. The bet on the turn looks like he's just trying to steal the pot; 120 into a 360 pot? The whole hand needs to be played more aggressively, IMO."
well, qq has me crushed,im not worried about the two jacks left in the deck, and if he has ak i should give him a chance to bluff or catch a k. The bet on the turn also looks like he flopped top set and is trying to get a call.

greggg230 · #8 06-13-2007, 01:48 AM

Huh? So the re-raise shows he has QQ or KK but he won't call a re-raise pre-flop?

JamieO · #9 06-13-2007, 01:51 AM

imo early position raise, a reraise, then me raising again just makes it painfully obvious i have aa.

DLKeeper1 · #10 06-13-2007, 01:51 AM

If you are putting him on this tiny range, push it all in preflop.