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Old 06-12-2007, 02:47 AM
The Sower The Sower is offline
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Default KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

No read/stats here. In this situation with JJ-KK I've been falling back into WA/WB mode. Should I be leading at any point here?

STAGE #679954106: HOLDEM NO LIMIT $1 - 2007-06-11 18:03:02 (ET)
Table: MALDIVES HWY (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - EAZYGREEZY ($315.15 in chips)
Seat 4 - THESOWER ($103.15 in chips)
Seat 5 - GREED1000 ($100 in chips)
Seat 6 - BLKJACKQUEEN ($40.99 in chips)
Seat 1 - RUCKUS77 ($66.45 in chips)
Seat 2 - HOONI ($105.38 in chips)
THESOWER - Posts small blind $0.50
GREED1000 - Posts big blind $1
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to THESOWER [Kc Ks]
BLKJACKQUEEN - Folds
RUCKUS77 - Calls $1
HOONI - Folds
EAZYGREEZY - Folds
THESOWER - Raises $4.50 to $5
GREED1000 - Folds
RUCKUS77 - Calls $4
*** FLOP *** [Ac 6h Jh]
THESOWER - Checks
RUCKUS77 - Bets $4
THESOWER - Calls $4
*** TURN *** [Ac 6h Jh] [4s]
THESOWER - Checks
RUCKUS77 - Checks
*** RIVER *** [Ac 6h Jh 4s] [Qd]
THESOWER - Checks
RUCKUS77 - Bets $9
THESOWER - Calls $9
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:49 AM
Unknown Soldier Unknown Soldier is offline
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Default Re: KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

completely opponent dependent. Unknown? I bet, esp. on this board, straight/flushes/J's will come along.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:04 AM
TheMadHeater TheMadHeater is offline
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Default Re: KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

I normally bet the flop.
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Old 06-12-2007, 03:56 AM
Vince. Vince. is offline
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Default Re: KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

If you bet this flop and get called do you just shut down? I hate these types of hands, especially being oop.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

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If you bet this flop and get called do you just shut down? I hate these types of hands, especially being oop.

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against a complete unknown i just c/f turn to a reasonable bet.
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:37 AM
josh_x josh_x is offline
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Default Re: KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

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completely opponent dependent. Unknown? I bet, esp. on this board, straight/flushes/J's will come along.

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If you bet this flop and get called do you just shut down? I hate these types of hands, especially being oop.

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against a complete unknown i just c/f turn to a reasonable bet.

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don't you think J's/fd's/random hands bet the turn if you check fairly often? (i often take this line too, and it always feels icky)
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Old 06-12-2007, 04:41 AM
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Default Re: KK when A flops... what\'s standard?

myabe they do josh, but they also might fire again on the river so i dont like calling the turn. I guess calling turn and folding to a river bet is alright, not something i like doing very often. I'd rather just give up on turn. It does feel weak, but we don't have enough info to go very far with this hand.
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