$16 AJs - SB vs BB 16.7/6.7

[StregaChess]

Villain is 16.7/6.7, I may not have noticed till after the hand, my bad. A raise seemed standard but after he pops me back I'm feeling like a shove was better, but that's most likely a results driven feeling. Thoughts?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t100 (6 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t4545)
UTG+1 (t1855)
CO (t1390)
Button (t1375)
Hero (t3105)
BB (t1230)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">UTG folds</font>, <font color="gray">UTG+1 folds</font>, <font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t300</font>, <font color="red">BB raises to t1100</font>, Hero ??

[Kevin8423]

You can go either way but I just shove, you're basically playing with 12BBs here (villains stack) so its fine.

[StregaChess]

Kevin, I assume you mean shove 1st now that he's got my butt hanging in the air what do you do with his raise?

[Pudge714]

Raise/call or shove.

[RexWoo]

I just shove pre for 12 BBs

[StregaChess]

Pudge what range do you put him on that justifies going on?
In the actual hand I did shove over him but in hindsight I feel if he is a solid player and I've been tight he's not coming at me lightly.
77+,ATs+,KQs,AJo+
What would you put him on?
(of course in the actual hand he had QQs, I hit an A and the river brings a Q )

[shbball7]

I would shove, yea this time u get unlucky cuz he has qq but way more often than not u will get called by weaker hands imo

[StregaChess]

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I would shove, yea this time u get unlucky cuz he has qq but way more often than not u will get called by weaker hands imo

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You mean preflop or over top of his raise?

Preflop shoving 1st his range could be
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After I raise 3xbb and he shoves 1st range is
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I think that's the difference of course 1st is an easy one, shoving over a raise and an all-in is not so cut and dry.

[j_step]

beat him to the pot, shove first

[Slim Pickens]

Either raise/call or shove. AJs is too strong to raise/fold. Every once in a while you can make a cheap steal with total junk that way but doing it with a real hand is a waste. Against a more passive player (at least a player I think will be more passive going forward, like a 45/2) I'll limp and minbet most flops.