PS 6 + .50 Turbo - AT on the Bubble

[greggg230]

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t2545)
Button (t4270)
SB (t4505)
Hero (t2180)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="gray">CO folds</font>, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, SB calls t100, Hero checks

Flop: (t400) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t400) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (t400) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
<font color="red">SB bets t200</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to t1980 (All-in)</font>, SB calls t1780

Would love some comments on both pre-flop play (should I have shoved?) and on my play on the river. My thinking was that he was either just trying to buy the pot, he caught a weaker 10, or he was slow-playing some kind of big hand, and I was short-stacked enough that I thought it was worth the risk.

[sence25]

pf is an easy push, the river I just call
cuz I don't think you get stronger hands to fold with a push.
maybe some weaker hands will call.
but still, it's the bubble and he covers you by far, so i'd just call it down.

[scorpion_nz]

I'd push preflop, but as played definitely just call the river. Your hand has some showdown value and the only hands that will call your shove are hands that beat you.

[CheeseMoney]

I can't tell you how bad that river push is. No offense, but it just screams "I HATE MONEY!"

[greggg230]

Is it really true that the only hands that will call will beat me? A lot of weaker 10's will probably call, right? And unless he was slow-playing some big hand, or maybe had T3,4,5, what hand could he really have that would beat me that he wouldn't have raised with PF?

I suppose it's possible he has JJ-AA and didn't want to just push me off pre-flop and wanted to extract value or something, which you'll see sometimes at these stakes.

But it seems to me that if I push -

Most of the time, he has nothing and folds.
Some of the time, he has a weaker 10, small pocket pair, or smaller pair on the board and I double up.
Some small amount of the time, he has a big hand and I bust.

Not necessarily disputing what's been said here, but I am just trying to understand why pushing the river is so bad.

[sence25]

It's not really THIS bad.
Depends on how you/he played before.
Sure, he might call the river with JT.
Would be a very ugly call, but he might do this.
But why can't you just call, take a decent pot and have no risk of bubbling?
If he has you beat, fine, just lost a little, if he bluffed ya or has a weaker T, fine as well.

[Foldem78]

This is a PF push; plain and simple. The rest is moot.

You could play this hand perfectly everytime post-flop and it still wouldn't make up for not pushing pre-flop.

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Good Luck.

[Foldem78]

A lot of weaker 10's will not call for another 1800 chips..even at the 6.50's. Would you???

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..what hand could he really have that would beat me that he wouldn't have raised with PF?...

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Next time, I wouldn't wait till the river to ask the question.

[EscapePlan9]

Shove pre-flop.

Do not shove that river.

[cougar62]

pf is a raise, probably a push. Don't let small blinds limp into your BB when you have something decent. I'm raising (pushing) fairly wide here.

River just call. He's not laying down anything that has you beat (2 pr, the A2 for the str8), and probably not calling a weaker 10 and definately not a bluff.