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Old 06-10-2007, 06:37 PM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

Hi

I need advice on the following four hands. 3 of them I won, only one I lost. I have to say I think I played all of them correctly only the AQ was horrible. I probably should have reraised all in pf. However as you see in Hand 1 I might be still a bit too lose. I just don't know when to loosen up and how or what to play. I usually play extremely tight (raise with QQ+, AJ+) until 5 people are left or the blinds are about 50/100. Then I losen up and raise many more hands. Other pocket pairs and Ace with a suited, smaller kicker I try to call, but only from LP. Is this wrong and too lose?

Hand 1
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t30/t60
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3155
DonLigretto: t1310
MP1: t1000
MP2: t230
CO: t1300
Button: t1415
SB: t2840
BB: t2250

Pre-flop: (8 players) DonLigretto is UTG+1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises to t180</font>, MP1 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP2 raises all-in t230</font>, 4 folds, DonLigretto calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t500)</font>.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t550, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t550)


Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t550, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t550)


River: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t550, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t550)


Results:
Final pot: t550
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto showed Ac Jh</font>
<font color="#ffffff">MP2 showed Ks Qs</font>

Hand 2
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1255
UTG+1: t2440
MP1: t2940
MP2: t2345
DonLigretto: t840
Button: t940
SB: t880
BB: t1860

Pre-flop: (8 players) DonLigretto is CO with T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">MP1 raises to t350</font>, MP2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises all-in t840</font>, 3 folds, MP1 calls t490 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1340)</font>.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1830, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1830)


Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1830, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1830)


River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1830, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t1830)


Results:
Final pot: t1830
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto showed Ts Td</font>
<font color="#ffffff">MP1 showed 5d Ad</font>


Hand 3
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1080
DonLigretto: t1150
Button: t3500
SB: t1910
BB: t5860

Pre-flop: (5 players) DonLigretto is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
UTG folds, DonLigretto calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t150)</font>, Button folds, SB calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t250)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t300, 3 players)
<font color="#cc0000">SB bets t175</font>, BB calls t175 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t475)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises all-in t1050</font>, 2 folds.
Uncalled bets: t875 returned to DonLigretto.

Results:
Final pot: t825


Hand 4
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t50/t100
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t3500
CO: t1635
Button: t5685
SB: t980
DonLigretto: t1700

Pre-flop: (5 players) DonLigretto is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
2 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t200</font>, SB folds, DonLigretto calls t100 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t350)</font>.

Flop: K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t450, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto bets t300</font>, Button calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t750)</font>.

Turn: J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (t1050, 2 players)
DonLigretto checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t300</font>, DonLigretto calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1350)</font>.

River: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t1650, 2 players)
DonLigretto checks, <font color="#cc0000">Button bets t900</font>, DonLigretto folds.
Uncalled bets: t900 returned to Button.

Results:
Final pot: t1650
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:11 PM
mondonman mondonman is offline
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

#1 AJo is not strong enough to raise it from UTG+1. Youīll have to fold to any reraise and canīt really outplay anybody with &lt; 20BB left.

#2 I like.

#3 is horrible. Never open-limp with 11.5BB and such a weak holding. On a side note I canīt believe you made 2 players lay their hands down postflop at a $11

#4 just push pf. As played Iīd go for a CRAI on the flop.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:56 PM
EscapePlan9 EscapePlan9 is offline
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

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#1 AJo is not strong enough to raise it from UTG+1. Youīll have to fold to any reraise and canīt really outplay anybody with &lt; 20BB left.

#2 I like.

#3 is horrible. Never open-limp with 11.5BB and such a weak holding. On a side note I canīt believe you made 2 players lay their hands down postflop at a $11

#4 just push pf. As played Iīd go for a CRAI on the flop.

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Old 06-11-2007, 04:01 AM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

But would you have called with AJ in Hand 1?

Number 3: Would you have pushed preflop? And in itself, without the limp pf, was the shove justified?
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Old 06-11-2007, 04:27 AM
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

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I usually play extremely tight (raise with QQ+, AJ+) until 5 people are left or the blinds are about 50/100.

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You really prefer AJ to JJ? I'd drop the AJ from your "tight" range and add JJ. Hands like hand 1 (or worse) are all too common if you play AJ here.

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Old 06-11-2007, 05:09 AM
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

I'm with mondonman here. Although - depending on the table - I sometimes raise with AJo in that spot.

[ QUOTE ]
But would you have called with AJ in Hand 1?


[/ QUOTE ]
you have to call t50 in the t500 pot. no way you can fold here.


[ QUOTE ]

Number 3: Would you have pushed preflop? And in itself, without the limp pf, was the shove justified?


[/ QUOTE ]

I would have open folded 22. You are not desperate enough to make a move with 22. As played I don`t like the push after the flop action.
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:19 AM
DonLigretto DonLigretto is offline
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

Thanks for your valuable advice. Here are three more hands from today. Hand 1 I guess I couldn't do much, just bad luck. I'm not folding QQ in a 10$ game. I was in similar situations up against 66+ hands, so probably just bad luck. The funny thing is that after this hand I had 75 chips left and made a comeback til 1700 chips, however lost with hand number 2 and finished 5th. And number 3, well this might be my biggest leak. I mean what do you do, even early in a tournament, when you have a PP with all lower cards on the board. You can't just fold? Or do you? Sometimes I really think about sitting at a table, press "Sit out next hand" and return only after 30 minutes to play to avoid such mistakes.

Hand 1
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1470
UTG+1: t1770
MP1: t1470
MP2: t1545
MP3: t1350
CO: t1455
Button: t1455
SB: t1440
DonLigretto: t1545

Pre-flop: (9 players) DonLigretto is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
3 folds, MP2 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, MP3 calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, CO calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t105)</font>, Button calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t135)</font>, SB calls t15 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t165)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises to t240</font>, 3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">Button raises to t870</font>, SB folds, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises all-in t1545</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Button calls all-in t615</font>.
Uncalled bets: t60 returned to DonLigretto.

Flop: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t-2730, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3090)


Turn: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t-2730, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3090)


River: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t-2730, 0 player + 2 all-in - Main pot: t3090)


Results:
Final pot: t-2730
<font color="#ffffff">Button showed Kd Kc</font>
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto showed Qd Qs</font>

Hand 2
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t80/t160
5 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1070
CO: t1475
Button: t6810
DonLigretto: t1135
BB: t3010

Pre-flop: (5 players) DonLigretto is SB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
3 folds, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto raises all-in t1135</font>, BB calls t975 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1295)</font>.

Flop: 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t2270, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2270)


Turn: 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t2270, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2270)


River: J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t2270, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t2270)


Results:
Final pot: t2270
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto showed Qd 7d</font>
<font color="#ffffff">BB showed Js Kh</font>

Hand 3
Full Tilt Poker
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1515
DonLigretto: t1500
MP1: t1485
MP2: t2925
CO: t1455
Button: t1455
SB: t1665
BB: t1500

Pre-flop: (8 players) DonLigretto is UTG+1 with 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
UTG folds, DonLigretto calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t45)</font>, 3 folds, Button calls t30 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, SB calls t15 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t105)</font>, BB checks.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t120, 4 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">BB bets t120</font>, DonLigretto calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t240)</font>, 2 folds.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t360, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto bets t300</font>, <font color="#cc0000">BB raises to t600</font>, DonLigretto calls t300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t1260)</font>.

River: A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t1560, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in t750</font>, <font color="#cc0000">DonLigretto calls all-in t750</font>.

Results:
Final pot: t3060
<font color="#ffffff">BB showed 3d 2h</font>
<font color="#ffffff">DonLigretto mucks 9h 9c</font>
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:27 AM
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

Hand 1 + 2: I like
Hand 3: I check behind on the turn and call a reasonable bet on the river

EDIT: In low buyin sngs I can't remember folding QQ preflop. There are so many worse hands that call you.
On the other hand I try to avoid situations like hand 3 early in tourny. I don't want to get broke with a PP or TPTK so early. Usually there are much better opportunities later in the game.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:48 AM
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

#1 is good. You really cannot expect the 4th limper to hold AA/KK here.

#2 stdrd

#3 BB leads strong into three players still to act. You may very well be beat already. Of course a lone 4 or an FD are possible, so I like the call. No need to bet the turn tho. The 3 certainly did not help you. As played lay it down after the reraise.
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:59 AM
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Default Re: 10+1$ regular: 4 Hands from 2night

1. fold preflop
2. fine
3. fold pf
4. shove pf
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