2nd Nut Flush on Scary Board

mscags · #1 06-10-2007, 03:27 PM

Villain seems somewhat reasonable. Whats my play? I ruled out villain holding AA KK and K4 as I think AA and KK reraise and hes not playing K4 I guess A4 33 44 and something like KQs JQs are all reasonable.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP ($54.35)
CO ($49.25)
Hero ($101.20)
SB ($25.20)
BB ($52)
UTG ($50.85)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
3 folds, Hero raises to $2, SB calls $1.75, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6) A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $4, SB folds, BB calls $4.

Turn: ($14) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $11, Hero calls $11.

River: ($36) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
BB bets $35 (All-In), Hero.....

Nick C · #2 06-10-2007, 03:46 PM

He probably has a flush. It's probably a good one. But I would call and hope the 2:1 I was getting was good enough.

It helps a little that PPs with a spade in it should be in his range, but it really does worry me that he's pushing the board-pairing river even after getting called on the turn. And, meanwhile, it's not a good sign that, from his perspective, a naked Ts gives just the third-highest flush. Hopefully he's pushing at least partly out of frustration/desperation or because he misinterpreted your turn call and thinks you just have AK.

RingoStar · #3 06-10-2007, 03:47 PM

Think I would have folded on the turn, river is an abvious fold unless you've got a specific read on the BB.

mscags · #4 06-10-2007, 09:38 PM

Why would you fold the turn, he made a moderate sized bet and you have the second nut flush. I cant see folding here ver for this amount.

mugatu668 · #5 06-10-2007, 09:39 PM

2nd nut flush doesn't mean much on this board. Fold imo

jmgambler · #6 06-10-2007, 09:43 PM

I Think is a relatively easy fold?, anyone think the turn here is a perfect place for a mini raise?

I just dont think your good here...... Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]? 33?

Gigglegirl · #7 06-10-2007, 10:01 PM

Interesting hand.
He can't have the full house unless he bluffed the turn and if he has the flush, he should be a little worried by the board pairing on the river.
I'd discount somewhat the fullhouse as he should pot control check/call turn hoping to fill up on his set.
He woke up and bet out strong when the flush completed so w/o reads saying he can bluff boards like that, the flush looks very likely.
It's got to be the queen or the ten and betting the ten like that, especially with the board pairing (giving hero more ways to beat him), takes cajones.
I'd let him have it.

Vyse · #8 06-10-2007, 10:05 PM

Yeah, very odd hand. If he had a set, why would he bet the turn like that? I'd call with the pot odds and hope 2nd flush is good enough.