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Old 06-10-2007, 11:15 AM
RabidTortuga RabidTortuga is offline
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Default Suited connector in SB vs. raise

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Limit Holdem Ring game
Limit: $0.25/$0.5
9 players
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Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">UTG raises</font>, 5 folds, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (7SB, 3 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets</font>, Button calls, Hero calls.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5BB, 3 players)
Hero ?
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:33 AM
Niediam Niediam is offline
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

Preflop: I fold. Not many people in and raise was from UTG.

Flop: good

Turn: checkraise
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:37 AM
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

I agree with Niediam, except I'd donk the turn, I'd hate this getting checked through, and noone has shown much indication so far (an autobet and a peel) that they're gonna bet the turn.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:06 PM
mmctrab mmctrab is offline
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

I don't usually play low and mid suited connectors if raised ahead of me so I would fold preflop. I don't think they win often enough to play them. I'll lead the turn because with the coordinated board it may get checked around.
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Old 06-10-2007, 01:45 PM
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

I'm not calling a raise with this preflop.
Flop call is ok at 9:1
I like bet/call the turn. I would hate to see it check through.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:46 PM
Buzz-cp Buzz-cp is offline
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

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Preflop: I fold. Not many people in and raise was from UTG.

Flop: good

Turn: checkraise

[/ QUOTE ]

ditto!
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:18 PM
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

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I agree with Niediam, except I'd donk the turn, I'd hate this getting checked through, and noone has shown much indication so far (an autobet and a peel) that they're gonna bet the turn.

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I agree. Yours is a made hand that will not improve. Donking out prevents the unfortunate 3 bet by UTG as well. We need evidence that UTG is going to bet the turn before hoping for the check-raise. Like a read that shows him as overly aggressive or a non-scary board that doesn't worry him. That board is scary now so he may well take the freebie and flush you down the river.

I also would have folded pre-flop.
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Old 06-10-2007, 04:35 PM
ReidDeCardes ReidDeCardes is offline
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

Pre-Flop: fold

I think betting the flop would have been good. It would test the UTG plus show some strength.

But, since it was a check, is 9:1 pot odds good enough for a call? You have 3 to 4 outs depending on what the others have suit-wise.

Turn: bet
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Old 06-10-2007, 06:16 PM
Bigka79 Bigka79 is offline
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

yeah in the sb this hand is too weak pf. i think we need to lay it down and hope for a better spot

despite that i agree with sharpie. although i am not usually an advocate of donkin i think this is a perfect spot. a c/r would be a lot more dependant on the read of the opponent if we know he will bet again or not

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Old 06-10-2007, 08:41 PM
Martina Martina is offline
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Default Re: Suited connector in SB vs. raise

I would fold preflop. If I called preflop I would check/call the flop. Once I hit the straight I would check/raise.
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