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Old 06-10-2007, 07:02 AM
MortenTA MortenTA is offline
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Default 67s in position against loose player

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $13.90
BB: $98.00
UTG: $79.45
MP: $152.60
CO: $149.95
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $134.15</font>

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">villain is 28/16/1.5 over ~1800 hands ( datamined )

He has been aggressive and seems to be calling 3bets fairly light.

He is on another table with me as well where he has a 4 buy in stack.</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (6 Players)
2 folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $5.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $16.00</font>, SB calls all-in for $13.40, BB folds, CO calls $11.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($46.90) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 Players - 1 All-In)
CO checks, Hero ?

Discuss flop play.

Should I be more inclined to just call his initial raise since he seems to call 3bets light?
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:24 AM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

3bet is fine, you are both deep enough but 67s is pushing it, I'd prefer higher SC then that when I 3bet.
I check the this flop because it's very likley to have hit him and he won't fold to just one bet. I'm willing to play small ball here cuz I don't want to get raise nor do I feel like putting in a 2nd barrel on the turn if he calls.
Besides 1 player is allin already and you have 7 hi. I'd take the free card and go from there.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:34 AM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

$34 on the flop you can take it down there or he calls and you check behind on the turn when you don't hit, river the flush he bets you raise and he calls.
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:35 AM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

check
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Old 06-10-2007, 07:54 AM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

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Should I be more inclined to just call his initial raise since he seems to call 3bets light?

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I believe so.

As played i check flop cause the main pot is so small.
Else i'd bet here.
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:22 AM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

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check

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Old 06-10-2007, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

What do we do with AA on this flop?
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Old 06-10-2007, 11:33 AM
wrschultz wrschultz is offline
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

I used to always bet here, but now I'm always checking here. I think the real answer is usually check but against some people bet.

Edit: I didn't really realize the implications of the side pot at the time. It DEFINITELY makes this a check and it's not close. If both villains had full stacks, it's tougher and my original analysis applies.
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Old 06-10-2007, 12:08 PM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

easy check since the side pot is very very small. It makes no sense trying to semibluff the villian out of the pot only to find yourself a 2 to 1 underdog to the guy all in + if you fire at the flop and he then shoves you'll probably have to fold (I haven't done the math) or make one of those arrrg god dammit calls. Be glad he is letting you see a free card.

I don't like the 3betting pf if you know he is going to call you. You should 3 bet him a lot tighter if he is loose enough to call everytime. So just call preflop if you feel you can stack him easily with a monster or outplay him. I would prefer folding preflop though since hes is betting 5bb's which is quite a large pf bet compared to the standard 3.5bbs.
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Old 06-10-2007, 02:03 PM
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Default Re: 67s in position against loose player

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I don't like the 3betting pf if you know he is going to call you.

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He wasn't calling every 3bet but I just felt like he was calling light. He hadn't shown down any hands where he called a 3bet. But I see your point and I was thinking in kinda the same lines.

anyone else advocating a pf fold?
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