Internet Gaming DOOR OPENED by Bachus Today

[oldbookguy]

TALKING POINTS / MY LETTER TO GONZALES et al

Alberto Gonzales, U. S. Attorney General

Congressman (BACHUS, R. Al.) stated to the effect at a very civil hearing before the House Financial Services Committee on June 08, 2007; I have no problem with ‘LEGAL’ Internet gaming. Presumably he was talking about State Lotteries and Horses, however, I think he AND many others are oblivious to other ‘Legal’ skill wagering and it is overlooked.

This letter is to explain fully ‘LEGAL’ Internet gaming, what is REALLY allowed.

Talking Points to incorporate into your letter: (this was left out of the actual letter)

1. I agree with Rep. Bachus (R. Al.) at the hearing in the House of Representatives on June 08, 2007 in that Legal Internet Wagering is Properly Regulated and the U.I.G.E.A. only makes illegal that which already was.

2. Specifically mentioned in the U.I.G.E.A as legal are horse racing, state lotteries and tribal gaming.

3. Not mentioned but legal as they are considered ‘SKILL’ games are Solitaire, Free Cell, Hearts, Spades, other card games involving strategy, backgammon, video games, puzzle games and other.

4. The games in number 3 are LEGALLY offered on MSN, AOL, YAHOO! And other sites to play in CASH COMPITITIONS as ‘SKILL’ games as the players ability more than any other factor determines the games outcome.

5. The games in number 3 are even funded using Paypal, an eBay company, a company that oddly enough endorsed the STRICTED gaming bill considered last summer by the House (H.R. 4777) while ALSO offering POKER wagering funding via Paypal U.K. and funding the ‘SKILL’ gaming listed in number 3.

6. The games referred to in number 3 are under strict identity guidelines.

7. The games in number three are under strict financial (I.R.S.) guidelines if payouts total more than $600.00 per year total.

8. Age limits on these ‘SKILL’ games in number is only 18, as they are not considered gambling which states require an age of 21 to participate.

9. The games in number 3 are ONLY restricted in 14 states by legislation. 36 states have NO prohibition on ‘SKILL’ wagering.

All I ask is for a FAIR application of the U.I.G.E.A. in that poker (and its various forms), a game that actually requires MORE skill than the allowed skill games in number 3 not be singled out and banned. Rather, apply the same standards as are applied to the games on M.S.N., A.O.L., and YAHOO! That are contained in number 3.

Thanks in advance,

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[vinyard]

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2. Specifically mentioned in the U.I.G.E.A as legal are horse racing, state lotteries and tribal gaming.

[/ QUOTE ]Aren't fantasy sports specifically exempted as well? Just an editing point

[oldbookguy]

Not considered gambling since there are rules there to make it not gambling by excluding 'real' teams, though I should have included.

obg

[permafrost]

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2. Specifically mentioned in the U.I.G.E.A as legal are horse racing, state lotteries and tribal gaming.

[/ QUOTE ]Aren't fantasy sports specifically exempted as well? Just an editing point

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OP mentions that they are recognized as legal by other law and therefore not included in UIGEA; there are no "exemptions".

If it is illegal, it is included.

If it is legal, it does not need an "exemption" since it was never included.

[govman6767]

Great Post but please remove freecell from games of skill after 7 years of wasting company money logging over 3.4 trillion hands of freecell and never completing one round and studying the publication "The mathmatics of Freecell" I doubt this is a game of skill.

Now minesweeper should be a game of skill (assume they give you the first block)

[oldbookguy]

I agree, however, FREE CELL is included at AOL I believe, I know one of the three.

You win by scoring points, not necessarily by moving ALL the cards, a point per card.

Sorry, classified a game of 'SKILL'.

Look at the three yourself, you may find mine sweeper there.

The point is, Free Cell is a Random Number Generated Deal of a deck of cards, Poker is a .........

obg


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Great Post but please remove freecell from games of skill after 7 years of wasting company money logging over 3.4 trillion hands of freecell and never completing one round and studying the publication "The mathmatics of Freecell" I doubt this is a game of skill.

Now minesweeper should be a game of skill (assume they give you the first block)

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