whats so wrong in that hand?? nl 100

Fredpower · #1 06-07-2007, 09:22 PM

i played that hand against a ps nl100 regular. After the hand he told me ''fishy play'' but didnt explain.

so what was so wrong. lately he was taking advantage of my weak play against him winning a lot of small pot.

so i only call after the flop and i was going to c/r him after the turn. Min raise is ok or you raise more??

and do you bet more after the river?? i suppose hes probably not that strong after he just called my raise after the turn so he would not call much more??

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (7 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($47.35)
MP2 ($123.20)
CO ($117.10)
Button ($18.50)
SB ($196)
Hero ($99)
UTG ($81)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
2 folds, MP2 raises to $4, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.

Flop: ($8.50) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $4, Hero calls $4.

Turn: ($16.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero checks, MP2 bets $10, Hero raises to $20, MP2 calls $10.

River: ($56.50) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 players)
Hero bets $20, MP2 calls $20.

Final Pot: $96.50

Results in white below: 
Hero has 8s 8h (three of a kind, eights).
MP2 has Qs Ks (one pair, queens).
Outcome: Hero wins $96.50.

the_rookie · #2 06-07-2007, 09:25 PM

Yeah weird line. It's best to reraise preflop here.

SABR42 · #3 06-07-2007, 09:27 PM

Ugh, this hand is very ugly.

Raising this turn is pretty bad IMO, but if you are going to bluff, make it at least $35.

Having sucked out on the river, you should have bet A LOT more than what you did.

Fredpower · #4 06-07-2007, 09:39 PM

ok sabr but do you really think he call more than that on the river??

and the rookie raising an aggresive player oop with middle pair??

SABR42 · #5 06-07-2007, 09:42 PM

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The river is a blank. I'd bet around $40 (although I'd never get there in this way, the turn min-raise is so gross).

Fredpower · #6 06-07-2007, 09:44 PM

ok ok lol i guess he was right ill try to adjust

thanks

Teddie · #7 06-07-2007, 11:09 PM

What do people think about rasing the flop to $10 or so?

Sun Wukong · #8 06-07-2007, 11:18 PM

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If the villain is a habitual cbettor (as many good players are) then i would c/r occasionally, but I don't know whether this is an EV+ play I just want to send the message my checks dont always mean weakness.

betgo · #9 06-07-2007, 11:19 PM

It's not that bad. I wouldn't pay attention to an opponent. I had a hand where I flat called a raise on the button with JTs. Called a cbet on a low flop, checked behind when a T hit, and called a bet on the river. Opponent had AQ and went on and on about what a donk and calling station I was. Apparently, I was supposed to fold preflop and to the cbet, rather than float. The moral is people get mad when you don't respect their bluffs.

Preflop and flop are standard, although you could also raise either.

On the turn, I would raise a little more if you raise, but you could also call or fold.

On the river, you need to make a bigger value bet.

BigBiceps · #10 06-07-2007, 11:57 PM

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I would have check-raised flop to 12.