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Old 06-07-2007, 06:15 PM
fabadam fabadam is offline
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Default Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

Villain was a relatively tight player (28/12/1.25) over 70 hands on 2 of my tables, sitting with >2 buy-ins at both.
This is Everest where everybody is loose-passive preflop, and maniac or weak-tight nitty postflop.

I ask what to do on flop and turn at once, hoping people manage to not read the continuation until you've answered the flop for yourself.

I can't find a working HH converter, so this is by hand:

EverestPoker, $0.15/$0.25, 6-handed

Seat 2: Villain ($61.64)
Seat 4: Irrelevant ($25.95)
Seat 5: fabadam ($56.55)

The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to fabadam[Ts Jc]
Villain raises to $0.90, 1 fold, Irrelevant calls $0.90, fabadam calls $0.90, 2 folds

*** FLOP *** [Td 6h Js]
Villain bets $3.10
Irrelevant folds
fabadam ... (QUESTION 1)










































fabadam raises to $12.40
Villain calls $9.30
*** TURN *** [Td 6h Js] [5c]
Villain bets $27.90
fabadam ... (QUESTION 2)
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:51 PM
Ramana Ramana is offline
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Default Re: Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

The pf-call is ok i think, because you're very deep, I pot the flop aswell. Wow the turn is very difficult. Best case is an overplayed AA-QQ. I think I shove based on our equity.


Hand 0: 59.626% { JcTs }
Hand 1: 40.374% { KK+, JJ-TT, 66 }
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:55 PM
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Default Re: Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

shove it.. it's often enough an overpair here .. I dont know why you didnt put in QQ .. but doesnt affect Equity much..

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 58.384% 58.38% 00.00% 13294 0.00 { JcTs }
Hand 1: 41.616% 41.62% 00.00% 9476 0.00 { TT+, 66 }
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:47 PM
DannyOcean_ DannyOcean_ is offline
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Default Re: Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

Pokerstove, thank you for making this hand look easy. And yes, given those numbers, I think you have to shove all day. That range could be looser as well, with AJ included, if player sucks an occasional wierd 2pair or KJ could be included.
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Old 06-08-2007, 01:24 AM
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Default Re: Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

I did shove the turn, and villain turned out to be following the Everest motto ("Where a flush draw is the nuts"(*)) by turning over KcQc.
River was an 8.

I stoved it as well, and was a bit surprised to see my equity was that big:

<font class="small">Code:</font><hr /><pre>Board: Td 6h Js 5c
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 72.145% 72.14% 00.00% 1238 0.00 { JcTs }
Hand 1: 27.855% 27.86% 00.00% 478 0.00 { TT+, 66, KQs, KQo }
</pre><hr />

(*) OK, OK, it's an OESD, but it is to the nuts.
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Old 06-08-2007, 03:21 AM
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Default Re: Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

I would just go anhead and raise flop.
If he has QQ+/AJ then he will put you on a lone J and you can get it in.
If he has JK, time to get the pot growing.
If he has QK/AK/QA then you charge him for his draw.
If he has nothing, you weren't gonna get much more $$ out of him anyway, so let him fold out weak hands.
Raise flop to $9

The 5c changes nothing on the turn. We are obv not worried about TT/JJ since here is exactly one combination of each in the whole deck, and are only losing to 66. Just put him in - he is already committed.
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Old 06-08-2007, 07:58 AM
PaulG PaulG is offline
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Default Re: Everest NL25 - 230BB deep with top 2 pair, part 1

You can use www.pokerhand.org to convert the hand. Its the only one that does Everest I believe.
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