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Old 06-07-2007, 12:23 PM
Jago Jago is offline
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Default $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

I think I'm in trouble here. villain is 22/9/2.3 after 100 hands. Do he have A9 here enough for me to call/push?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1895)
UTG (t1550)
UTG+1 (t595)
MP1 (t1460)
MP2 (t3355)
CO (t1440)
Button (t1345)
SB (t1860)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls t50, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (t125) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: (t125) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t350</font>, Hero
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Old 06-07-2007, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

call check the river and call if cheap
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Old 06-07-2007, 01:55 PM
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Default Re: $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

shove, call, fold. Which is the best move here and which is the worst?
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Old 06-07-2007, 02:38 PM
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Default Re: $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

I think alot of this is read dependent, but UTG limped under the guy which probably means he has a [censored] hand or PP. I feel that if he hit just a pair on the flop he would have bet. So I feel this is the standard donk flopping a set with 77 or 99 and slowplaying it, or could be slowplaying QQ, AA, KK. Tough call b/c UTG limp is often AA or KK. I woul flat call in you exact situation, but I would have also led the flop after hitting a piece two handed, so I would have a better read.
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Old 06-08-2007, 04:03 AM
RexWoo RexWoo is offline
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Default Re: $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

shove &gt; call &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; fold

(not sure about shove and call order)

He can have 8 millions different hands here and very very very few of them include a 5.
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Old 06-08-2007, 04:23 AM
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I'm shoving over his raise.
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Old 06-08-2007, 04:30 AM
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Default Re: $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

Alright so we call, now what?

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t25/t50
8 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: t1550
UTG+1: t595
MP1: t1460
MP2: t3355
CO: t1440
Button: t1345
SB: t1860
Hero: t1895

Pre-flop: (8 players) Hero is BB with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG calls t50 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t75)</font>, 6 folds, 6 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t125, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks.

Turn: 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t125, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t100</font>, <font color="#cc0000">UTG raises to t350</font>, Hero calls t250 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t575)</font>.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t825, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">UTG bets t650</font>
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Old 06-08-2007, 04:34 AM
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Default Re: $16 - trip 5s, turn c/r

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I'm shoving over his raise.

[/ QUOTE ]
How often does A9, 88, TT+ (hands that we beat) limp pf, check behind on the flop, and raise the turn? I think we're more likely to encounter 99, 77, 86.

The only reasonable hands that we're ahead of are some sort of combo draw (9xcc or maybe 97?)
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