Flop top pair,turn trips,how to proceed here...

[kenny7]

This is a live $110 tourney at my local casino.

I got moved to this table about an hr ago,been fairly tight,with the exception of villain and myself.He seems like a solid player,def capable of making moves.We are chipleaders by far at the table,and in top 5 of tourney overall.Still 4 full tables left,so ways to go yet.

We clashed twice right after I got to the table,both times I won the hand without showdown,the 2nd hand he raised my BB,I called and hit big on flop,and c/r him off what I think was a pretty big hand,I think he suspected he was being bluffed though,when he mucked,he said "nice bet,we'll meet again"

That was 30-40 mins ago,and the last time we were in a pot together. Sorry for the long preample,but it all really affected the way I played this hand.

Blinds 400/800,no ante,we are in the 60k range,I think I have him covered,barely.
Villain raises to 2500 in hi-jack,I'm button w AKo,decide to just call. I know this is def debatable,I'd raise most of the time here,but wanted to mix it up,as well as disguise hand in case I flopped big,and felt good being in pos.

BB calls as well. Flop is K-Q-4r. It is checked to me,I bet 6000,BB folds,villain calls.

Turn K,no flush possible,villain suddenly leads out,betting 15000.

Obviously did not expect that. Now what?

[Cornell Fiji]

I tank and call and then shove the river.

If he is making a move on you he is drawing dead so you might as well let him fire a 2nd barrell OOP

[Dan87]

push

[bonsaltron]

If you call it might freeze him on the river, where you can make a big bet looking like you want to buy it. Or you can call and he fires again on the river, in which case you can call or raise (probably raise). I predict he'd probably freeze on the river given the betting pattern. Sounds like he's testing a Q with 2 kings out of the deck. If you've been pushing him around, you might be getting looked up with a river shove or more-than-normally abused with this OOP turn bet.

By raising, you will have:
- Fired into 2 opponents on the flop
- Raised the turn, despite OOT turn barrel by villain

A raise announces you have a monster. A call is more ambigous, and I imagine more profitable with postion on the river.

I think overall I like calling, and raising / betting river.

[SuperUberBob]

You have to call. No chance in hell you can fold. You're looking to get your entire stack into the pot at this point. I'm probably not raising here against a strong player. Against a weak player, I might move all-in because I know that I'll be called by much weaker hands.

[kenny7]

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I tank and call and then shove the river.

If he is making a move on you he is drawing dead so you might as well let him fire a 2nd barrell OOP

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Yup,that was exactly what I did,tanked forever,called,never considered pushing the turn here,I see absolutely no value in that,then he bet the river,a 6 I think,I pushed,he called and showed me QQ [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img] Ooops.

Good to hear that you guys would have done the same,but in hindsight I feel I maybe should have been able to get away from this,or at least lose less. His check on the flop,shouldn't that be a red flag? Such an aggressive player,wouldn't a cbet be logical here? Also,I got a little hung up on the fact that I thought he'd love to try and bluff me off a pot,instead of worrying about a trap.

[Cornell Fiji]

being able to get away from this hand without a spot on read is massively -ev. You are bing results oriented.

It is arguable that you should have called his river bet and not shoved if you do not think that he is calling with KJ/KT/AQ

[kenny7]

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being able to get away from this hand without a spot on read is massively -ev. You are bing results oriented.

It is arguable that you should have called his river bet and not shoved if you do not think that he is calling with KJ/KT/AQ

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Point taken sir,and if you add overanalysing,you've got me pegged,oh yeah,and hindsight. I agree that calling river prob better,however,he'd left himself with virtually nothing behind,so I pushed,without thinking I might add....