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Old 06-06-2007, 10:46 PM
youthies youthies is offline
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Default 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

Villain is 16/10/3.7 over 90 hands. Is this turn push (well, nearly) good?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($21.70)
UTG ($5.85)
MP ($27.30)
CO ($32.35)
Hero ($31.30)
SB ($25.35)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $1</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3.5</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $2.50.

Flop: ($7.35) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $5.2</font>, MP calls $5.20.

Turn: ($17.75) 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $16.5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $18.6</font>, Hero calls $2.10.

River: ($54.95) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: $54.95
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:51 PM
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

why is your turn bet so large?(if you' re going to bet that large, just shove)
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:53 PM
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

I was running low on time.
So pushing here would be good?
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:55 PM
NoPoHustler NoPoHustler is offline
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

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why is your turn bet so large?(if you' re going to bet that large, just shove)

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Agreed^^^^
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:00 PM
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

somehow I'm getting the feeling that you're already against a set or AA/KK. And the pot is so big that both are probably committed. If he checks to you I'd just check and see what's the deal..

16/10/3.7 raising preflop and reraising turn: set or AA/KK. Well, that's what I think at least [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Depends on Heros table image too ofc

(edit: fixed a typo)
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:03 PM
TNPhoenix TNPhoenix is offline
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

Those stats are pretty TAG over 90 hands. Too much action for JJ. He clearly looks like he had no problem getting it AI on the turn and it looks like he was letting you lead no problem. He's got a set or AA I would think and is letting you hang yourself. I could be way off there. What have your stats been at the table so far? And your table image?

Someone else chime in here [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:04 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

No way, he's gotta bet this turn for value and it's going leave MP committed to the pot regardless, which means he's pretty much getting all in.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:06 PM
C4LL4W4Y C4LL4W4Y is offline
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

All of these things don't really matter, villain called on a drawy flop in a RR flop. His potential hand combinations are practically endless, which means you should bet turn.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:07 PM
NoPoHustler NoPoHustler is offline
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

The only hand I could put villain on here that you could beat is pocket 10's but you are pretty committed as well so this may be just a cooler...
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:11 PM
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Default Re: 25NL- Push turn with JJ?

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No way, he's gotta bet this turn for value and it's going leave MP committed to the pot regardless, which means he's pretty much getting all in.

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Given the stack sizes, there is no way you're getting away from this. Shove 'em in there and don't look back.
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