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Old 06-06-2007, 10:16 PM
Semtex Semtex is offline
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Default 50NL can i call this river push??

no reads stats on villain

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

MP1 ($10.45)
MP2 ($26.45)
CO ($36.90)
Button ($47.90)
SB ($30.90)
BB ($44.70)
Hero ($55.25)
UTG+1 ($34.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
Hero calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($2.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $1.5</font>, UTG+1 calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $6</font>, SB folds, BB folds, Hero calls $4.50, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: ($16) 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $5</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $20</font>, Button calls $15.

River: ($56) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $21.4 (All-In)</font>, Hero ????
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:34 PM
Johnes Benjamin Johnes Benjamin is offline
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

this is really weird but without any reads at this level and getting so much on your money I would call.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a split pot
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:46 PM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

Looks like the villain either filled up 9s or KQ. I would probably call even though you are behind a good bit here. But I play the hand a little different, I'm betting ~ $2 on the flop and as played 3 betting to $18-19 and then shoving the turn if called. This guy obviously likes his hand enough to c/r you big, so why not 3 bet the flop when you have the goods?
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

Why didn't you 3bet the flop here? Also, after the c/r on the turn I think you need to shove the river as c/c and c/f are both way worse imo. I call this, but a push is far better. I also, like 3betting the flop but calling is ok too.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:34 PM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

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Why didn't you 3bet the flop here? Also, after the c/r on the turn I think you need to shove the river as c/c and c/f are both way worse imo. I call this, but a push is far better. I also, like 3betting the flop but calling is ok too.

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on the flop i didn't want to force out his probable 2 pair/set hand, though thats not that big of a problem at this level. i think a shove on the river is pretty bad, cause basically all the hands that you were ahead of in his range just hit (except the odd bottom 2, flush draws, and straights in which case you split). i ended up calling river and sho nuff he had K-9.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:39 PM
Eggpie Eggpie is offline
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

people aren't folding their sets at this level. Doubt he folds KQ either. 3-bet that flop, get your money in a soon as possible. What you don't want is for something like the Ah to come while he still has enough chips to fold.
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Old 06-06-2007, 11:42 PM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

3-betting the flop and raising the turn harder are both good options. Just push the river yourself.
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Old 06-07-2007, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

Hmm ... at this level with 2 limpers on the button, if button had KQ wouldn't he have raised it from the button. I think this is an insta call when getting more then 2:1 with a made hand.
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Old 06-07-2007, 06:17 AM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

you limp JTs UTG [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img], Id 3 bet flop, as played call river
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Old 06-07-2007, 07:20 AM
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Default Re: 50NL can i call this river push??

3-bet the flop, push turn after that.

As played, push river yourself.
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