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Old 06-06-2007, 03:04 PM
MikeMcQ1 MikeMcQ1 is offline
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Default (78) flop 2-pair on paired board

Just checking.
BB is decent regular, CO is a known Meatball.

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t50 (4 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

CO (t990)
Button (t5710)
Hero (t1375)
BB (t925)

Preflop: Hero is in SB with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
CO calls t50, <font color="gray">Button folds</font>, Hero calls t25, BB checks

Flop: (t150) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (3 players)
<font color="red">Hero bets t75</font>, BB calls t75, CO calls t75

Turn: (t375) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="red">CO bets t150</font>, Hero...
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:15 PM
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Default Re: (78) flop 2-pair on paired board

Call, probably call river as long as BB folds.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:21 PM
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Default Re: (78) flop 2-pair on paired board

I like a lead for a little more. Probably 110. Half pot looks more like a stab at a benign flop, and you might get floated by a lot of stuff.

After that I would call the turn. I'd call a river bet if it's not too heavy.
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: (78) flop 2-pair on paired board

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I like a lead for a little more. Probably 110. Half pot looks more like a stab at a benign flop, and you might get floated by a lot of stuff.

After that I would call the turn. I'd call a river bet if it's not too heavy.

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So if I have A8 here, I'd love to get floated. Basically, what I'm saying is I want all my bets in this spot where the board is paired to be un-readable. IOW, I want to make the same kind of bet whether I have an 8, 7, or squadoosh; especially with a common regular in the hand. With that in mind, should my standard always be for 3/4 pot?

When both opponents call, my hand pretty much sucks now, doesn't it?
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Old 06-06-2007, 03:40 PM
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Default Re: (78) flop 2-pair on paired board

Well, if you want to have a "regular" bet in this case, then yea, I would just always make it 3/4ths pot. And the other benefit of that is when you lead bet trips, they are more likely to shove on you than if you 1/2 bet (slight, but more likely I think).

When both opponents call, yea it sucks, but there are still a lot of draws and one might even be floating or think his A high or pp is good. I don't think your hand sucks, but definitely don't get married to it.
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:11 PM
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Default Re: (78) flop 2-pair on paired board

im loving the new intro of meatball , fantastic
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Old 06-06-2007, 04:17 PM
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When both opponents call, my hand pretty much sucks now, doesn't it?

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Ooops, I thought the flop went check-check-check for some reason. Yes probably your hand sucks, but you bet so small it's hard to be sure. Bet a little closer to pot and you can confidently know you're beat with 2 callers. As played it's tough. Even if you're ahead you have no implied odds other than catching a bluff, and you don't know what BB is going to do. I think I lay it down on the turn.
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