Venetian Deep Stack Structure vs WSOP

[JFJB]

I am heading to vegas later in the month and originally was thinking of playing some WSOP events. I notice that the venetian has deep stack tournaments and I could not find their blind structure anywhere.

For the sake of game selection I would appreciate to find out what the blind structure is for the Venetian Deep Stack. Also any comments on the field at the Venetian as it compares to the WSOP smaller buy in (1500) NLH would be appreciated.

[fsoyars]

Start with 10k in chips. First level is 25/50. One hour levels. As far as the field, I'd say it's probably slightly stronger than the WSOP although I found it to be the same as most tournament fields - some solid players, a lot of donks.

[SirFelixCat]

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Start with 10k in chips. First level is 25/50. One hour levels. As far as the field, I'd say it's probably slightly stronger than the WSOP although I found it to be the same as most tournament fields - some solid players, a lot of donks.

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This is only true for the $1060 events. The $330 events are T6k chips and 40 mins lvls and the $540 events are T10k with 40 min levels.

[JFJB]

So I get that the Venetian has blinds of 25-50 to start with stacks of T6k (330 and 550) to T10k (1050) and blinds going up every 40 (330 and 550) to 60 (1050) mins.

While the structure is available for the WSOP tournements what I do not know yet is how fast or slow the blind structure is at the Venetian(including antes)? Anyone?

[SlightlyMad]

I believe you receive T$10000 for the 540, JFJB.

From 52s from his trip report on the 330.

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For the 330 they had the following:

6000 starting chips, 40 min. lvls

25-50
50-100
100-200
100-200/25
200-400/25
300-600/50
400-800/75
600-1200/100
800-1600/200
1000-2000/300
1500-3000/500
2000-4000/500
3000-6000/1000 (???)

That's about as far as I remember off the top of my head. I know the 500 color-up came somewhere around the last 2 lvls I listed.


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[JFJB]

Well guys thanks a lot for that information. It is great.

[Virge]

FWIW, I played this past Sunday in the $1000+$60. I liked the structure a lot. Plenty of flops seen even when it was down to 99/340 (when I went out). I have to say though for your money, the WSOP events are much better. I played in Event 15 on Saturday, went out 450 or so of the 2600+, and then at the V on Sunday. That tourney was intense. Matt Brady, M(ike/att) Lainge, Kenna James, and a lot of others whose face I recognized but couldn't think of the names were in it. At my last table I was sandwiched between Brady and Lainge, not a fun spot. I made a good run, but my money would have been better spent in another WSOP event or in a 5/10 buyin, both of which have a much higher ratio of donkeys to skilled players. Normally when I sit down at a Vegas table I'm staying out of 2 or 3 players way without a great hand and picking on the rest, at these tables there was 2-3 bad players per table at most after the first half of the tourny.

[binions]

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I believe you receive T$10000 for the 540, JFJB.

From 52s from his trip report on the 330.

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For the 330 they had the following:

6000 starting chips, 40 min. lvls

25-50
50-100
100-200
100-200/25
200-400/25
300-600/50
400-800/75
600-1200/100
800-1600/200
1000-2000/300
1500-3000/500
2000-4000/500
3000-6000/1000 (???)

That's about as far as I remember off the top of my head. I know the 500 color-up came somewhere around the last 2 lvls I listed.


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Meh - 8 hours before Big blind = starting chips. WSOP events are far better.

[SumZero]

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I believe you receive T$10000 for the 540, JFJB.

From 52s from his trip report on the 330.

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For the 330 they had the following:

6000 starting chips, 40 min. lvls

25-50
50-100
100-200
100-200/25
200-400/25
300-600/50
400-800/75
600-1200/100
800-1600/200
1000-2000/300
1500-3000/500
2000-4000/500
3000-6000/1000 (???)

That's about as far as I remember off the top of my head. I know the 500 color-up came somewhere around the last 2 lvls I listed.


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Meh - 8 hours before Big blind = starting chips. WSOP events are far better.

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For me it was no question the Venetian events were way better than the cheap WSOP events. I also did the event 15 on Saturday and then the $1K Venetian on Sunday + Monday. For the $1K ones you have 10,000 chips and full hour levels and shuffle machines to keep the hands coming. For the $1.5K WSOP event you have 3,000 chips and full hour levels and slow dealers. 10,000 >> 3,000. I thought I vaguely recognized some of the players but couldn't really place anyone and was next to Mike Laing for some of the end of Day 1 and start of Day 2. There were 369 players (paying 40) for the Sunday $1K and I was out 17th around 7 pm on Monday. There was only a 1 hour dinner break so we went through 12 levels to get from 369 players to 36 for day 1. There were definitely some strong players there. When I busted out the blinds were either 4,000-8,000 with a 1,000 ante or maybe 6,000-12,000 with a 2,000 ante. Our starting stacks were 10,000. So I busted out right around where the big blind hit the starting chips. This was midway through the money on the second day, 17 hours of poker later. That seemed like a very fair structure to me.

I liked the Venetian so much I even played their 8 pm nightly tournament after I busted from the $1K deep stack tourney. The nightly was around $180 buy-in and paid 9 of the 109 players it attracted (until we made a deal to pay 10th at the FT). For that you get 4500 chips, same blind structure, but 30 minute levels. There were a lot of women playing that since it was Monday night the day after the Women's only event. This field was noticeably not as strong overall, but did still have a few strong players (the average woman in this field was definitely much stronger than the average man IMHO). I went out 4th at around 3:30 am. The structure for that nightly tournament isn't as good as the $330 or the $540 deep stack events nor the WSOP events, but given the cheap buy-in and the regularity of it it is a great second chance tournament or cheap event with decent structure for that priced event. Contrast it to some of the local regular Bay 101 tournaments at that price range that I'm familiar with where you only have 15 or 20 minute levels and it is easy to see that the Venetian was much more player friendly.

I would definitely play the Venetian events again and play poker in the Venetian card room again.

[Temp Hutter]

The Venetian tournaments are better than the low buy in WSOP events in terms of structure. You have to accumulate chips early in the $1,500 WSOP events or else you end up in push or fold mode in the third level. The Venetian tournament gives you a lot more breathing room early. My only complaint about the Venetian tournaments was that the antes get too high in relation to the blinds.