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Old 06-05-2007, 05:28 PM
tercet tercet is offline
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Default 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

Spacegravy(utg) lagtard on money bubble but seems tag during first 2 or 3 levels.

Weve played two consecutive sessions of about 20 tables each time with each other so I think he respects my game a bit not to bet with air here.

Any comments on how I played this hand plz...

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Hero (t1410)
CO (t1920)
Button (t1860)
SB (t1945)
BB (t1305)
UTG (t1740)
UTG+1 (t1365)
MP1 (t1955)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls t150, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (t525) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets t250</font>, Hero folds, CO folds.

Final Pot: t775
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:33 PM
Kevin8423 Kevin8423 is offline
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

He has AQ+,JJ+ at most and possibly not even AQ. Its not overcards because hes not c-betting a 3 way pot, so fold.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:38 PM
DerrtySlime DerrtySlime is offline
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

kevin, would he do this with 77-1010 here?
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

Preflop is a pretty easy fold, if you are going to fold this flop.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:44 PM
tercet tercet is offline
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

Well I was just gonna fold if he bets to me, and bet if he checks(assuming he misses with his ak aq kq).
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:46 PM
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

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kevin, would he do this with 77-1010 here?

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I think there is a very low chance he has 77-TT because most pairs in that range he'd probably limp and TT he'd bet more than 250 to protect against overs (probably 450 or so).

I think it's close between calling and folding (mostly because he might bet an AK like this).....but I'm leaning towards a fold here.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

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He has Ak+,99+. Its not overcards because hes not c-betting a 3 way pot, so fold.

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Old 06-05-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

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Well I was just gonna fold if he bets to me, and bet if he checks(assuming he misses with his ak aq kq).

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He will cbet AK, AQ, KQ (which he never has here given preflop maybe KQs a small percent of the time) a lot of the time forcing you to fold JJ. SNG players play pretty exploitable deepish, but they aren't this exploitable. Also if you are calling to bet when he checks you should be calling with 22+ here.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:52 PM
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

fold pre-flop.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:53 PM
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Default Re: 16s - JJ on 8 high flop vs spacegravy

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He has Ak+,99+. Its not overcards because hes not c-betting a 3 way pot, so fold.

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Yea, you'd like people to believe you always have the nuts, heh [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Spacegravy had 64 suited obv.....
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