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Raise 23 22.77%
Call 78 77.23%
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:42 PM
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65/20/.7 button open limps. You have A2o in the SB. BB is TAG at 25/18/2.
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:43 PM
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If you fold, what's the lowest Ax you play?
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Old 06-03-2007, 09:57 PM
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Assuming 1/2 blinds, I call and raise A8o+
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Old 06-04-2007, 04:20 AM
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FWIW I dont think it matters much whether you fold or call in a 1/2 structure.

I hardly ever play 1/2 structures these days, but I guess I would raise A7o+ and complete A6o and A5o.
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:38 AM
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Default Re: Stupid Preflop Question

how can you ever fold an ace for 0.5 SB against this loose limper? I can't believe how tight some of you guys are...
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:46 AM
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 32.689% 31.55% 02.13% 602563 40618.00 { 55-22, A3s-A2s, K7s-K2s, Q8s-Q2s, J8s-J2s, T8s-T2s, 94s+, 84s+, 74s+, 64s+, 54s, A8o-A2o, K9o-K2o, Q9o-Q4o, J6o+, T7o+, 97o+, 87o, 76o }
Hand 1: 35.416% 33.95% 02.53% 648503 48346.00 { Ac2d }
Hand 2: 31.895% 31.26% 01.59% 597134 30446.00 { random }

easy call if you stove it. question is how to play a weak aces out of position against 2 when you dont hit your ace ...
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Old 06-04-2007, 05:54 AM
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A2o really dosent play well postflop. I think its a fine call but its marginal at best. I would much rather play 98s which prolly has much less eq preflop. Analyzing a preflop decision merely based on eq against some proposed range is far from enough.
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:18 AM
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Hu vs this range:
K9s-K2s,Q9s-Q2s,J9s-J2s,T3s+,95s+,85s+,74s+,64s+,54s,A9o-A2o,K9o-K2o,Q9o-Q5o,J9o-J7o,T7o+,97o+,87o
we have like 54% equity
if he raises some more hands as people do on the button (not just 20%) our equity might go up to 57%

however if BB is a observant TAG he might know that villain is spewy and we had explored that. I dont want to be OOP to the TAG and the spewtard.

I fold.
but can someone tell me why to call hand have the TAG BB in the hand is a good thing?
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Old 06-04-2007, 06:32 AM
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Default Re: Stupid Preflop Question

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I fold.
but can someone tell me why to call hand have the TAG BB in the hand is a good thing?

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cuz if you do this with any frequency and the tag plays well he's gonna come with at least 60% of his hands and he's gonna float or raise a lot of flops too.
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Old 06-04-2007, 02:39 PM
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I thought it was a fold when I made the poll and I still think it is. It may seem like we have good equity, but A2o plays so bad versus the TAG and loose guy OOP. Make the BB a loose passive and I call all day.
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