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NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
Bodog No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com
BB ($474.00) UTG ($167.00) UTG+1 ($151.66) MP1 ($220.50) Hero ($426.50) MP3 ($172.00) CO ($199.50) Button ($255.50) SB ($230.00) Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]. <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $2, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP3 calls $10, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls $8. Flop: ($33) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font> UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $28</font>, MP3 calls $28, UTG+1 folds. Turn: ($89) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> Hero checks, MP3 checks. River: ($89) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font> <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $77</font> Villain is 28/5 over 60 hands. Do you guys like a stackadonk line here (i.e. lead flop and CRAI on turn)? I thought checking the turn was best to either c/r or to get extra value from mid PP on the river. You guys like it or would you prefer to just lead the turn? |
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
I tend to bet bet bet 28/5 without a read they are aggro
tend to watch the turn check way too often |
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
I was thinking I'd get the best of both worlds with a check. If he takes a stab I get to CRAI but if he doesnt its still good becuase i should be able to extract more value from a mid pair on the river so I wasnt too concerned about him checking.
I figured both of these options were better than leading into him with a decent bet when he probably has a vulnerable hand and the Q may be a scare card for him (which could have easily hit my AQ/KQ that c-bet a whiffed flop). Just my thought process. |
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
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I was thinking I'd get the best of both worlds with a check. If he takes a stab I get to CRAI but if he doesnt its still good becuase i should be able to extract more value from a mid pair on the river so I wasnt too concerned about him checking. I figured both of these options were better than leading into him with a decent bet when he probably has a vulnerable hand and the Q may be a scare card for him (which could have easily hit my AQ/KQ that c-bet a whiffed flop). Just my thought process. [/ QUOTE ] I understand all that, its just in my experience and I'm stubborn/greedy too, they just check the turn time after time call the river and have a hand they'd call 2bets with and I get mad for not betting |
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
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I was thinking I'd get the best of both worlds with a check. If he takes a stab I get to CRAI but if he doesnt its still good becuase i should be able to extract more value from a mid pair on the river so I wasnt too concerned about him checking. I figured both of these options were better than leading into him with a decent bet when he probably has a vulnerable hand and the Q may be a scare card for him (which could have easily hit my AQ/KQ that c-bet a whiffed flop). Just my thought process. [/ QUOTE ] Q isnt the best card for stack a donk here IMO. I would just normally lead here again hoping he thinks im just using that Q as a scarecard. Also with stack a donk line u are commiting yourself on turn which isnt terrible but I would like an option to maybe get away sometimes on turn. I Like your river bet. |
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
I think the line isn't bad but I'd prefer to bet turn and then put a smallish valuebet on the river. Once he's called turn he's very unlikely to fold river to another bet that looks like you are slowing down
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
I like it, I would need more of a read to bet the turn too. Also if you had a crazy image you could bet the turn.
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Re: NL200 - KK - Maximizing Value
Playing that way is fine. It can also save you money (although easier with position) if you're up against a flopped set.
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