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Old 06-03-2007, 12:41 PM
gir gir is offline
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Default Making Hero Calls

<font color="green">How do we feel about these hero calls?</font>

Hand 1

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

<u>SB: $171.55</u>
BB: $84.35
UTG: $183.35
MP: $194.00
CO: $806.73
<u>Hero (BTN): $207.85</u>

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain: 24/8/2.6 ~25 hands</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
3 folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, SB calls $7.00, BB folds

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($18) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $14.00</font>, SB calls $14.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($46) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
SB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $30.00</font>, SB calls $30.00

<font color="black">River:</font> ($106) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">SB bets all-in for $119.55</font>, Hero calls $119.55

Pot Size: $345.10 ($3 Rake)

Hand 2

Party Poker
No Limit Hold'em Cash Game
$1/$2 Blinds
6 Players
LegoPoker HH Converter

SB: $204.00
<u>BB: $180.02</u>
UTG: $127.05
<u>Hero (MP): $363.65</u>
CO: $38.80
BTN: $245.50

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">Villain: 30/9/1.3 ~30 hands</font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">Hero raises to $8.00</font>, 3 folds, BB calls $6.00

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($17) 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, <font color="red">Hero bets $12.00</font>, BB calls $12.00

<font color="black">Turn:</font> ($41) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

<font color="black">River:</font> ($41) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">BB bets $60.00</font>, Hero calls $60.00

Pot Size: $161.00 ($3 Rake)
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:44 PM
ty2472004 ty2472004 is offline
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Default Re: Making Hero Calls

I kind of like the first one....Is 68 suited in his calling range preflop? Either way, alot of his range is missed clubs. I don't like the second one at all.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Making Hero Calls

Hand 1 is really bad, this is a 7 almost always, not many ppl bluff missed clubs like this.

Hand 2, meh, in my experience potbets/overbets are rarely bluffs.
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Old 06-03-2007, 12:58 PM
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Default Re: Making Hero Calls

thread is dumb without a desc of your image/shania at the table
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:32 PM
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Default Re: Making Hero Calls

I'm 22/15/2.5 ish. Considering I only had 25 hands on them, I was basing it on how they played it and what hands actually play the way they did.

Maybe they were ego-calls in that because they didn't make proper sense, I wasn't about to let myself be 'outplayed'. But in reality, I saw the hands played in the moment and said to myself, "this does not make sense for a legitimate hand" and made two calls (I'm still not saying the results).

Are these the call downs you should only make with a few hundred plus hands and solid reads? Against players who you know have picked up how you play?
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:38 PM
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gir with proper shania and reads, you can make these calls.

BUT asking the boards to have the same understanding as you did in game is asking too much. not to mention there are A LOT if nits here who will just tell you autofold without even approaching shania level of thinking
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Old 06-03-2007, 01:43 PM
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That's fair. I'll keep that in mind and make sure I have a better explanation.
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Old 06-03-2007, 02:09 PM
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Both look really marginal. I wouldn't be surprised if you won or lost both. But I'd say you are more likely to win hand 2 than hand 1, fwiw.
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