Two Plus Two Newer Archives  

Go Back   Two Plus Two Newer Archives > PL/NL Texas Hold'em > Full Ring
FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-03-2007, 01:26 AM
CalledDownLight CalledDownLight is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: burning money in non-ring games
Posts: 4,541
Default JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

Villian is slightly loose and passive preflop, but reasonably aggro postflop.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

BB ($41.30)
UTG ($44.85)
UTG+1 ($46.35)
MP1 ($29)
Hero ($132.70)
MP3 ($47.25)
CO ($26.65)
Button ($43.15)
SB ($32.50)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls $0.50, UTG+1 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $3, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls $2.50, UTG calls $2.50, UTG+1 calls $2.50.

Flop: ($15.25) 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, CO folds, BB folds, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, Hero ???
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 06-03-2007, 02:42 AM
zyrrth zyrrth is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 879
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

I think I'd push here, lots of draws and he only has 23$ behind.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-03-2007, 03:14 AM
fathazam fathazam is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 26
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

It depends, push unless you can definitely narrow him down to a set. Otherwise you have to figure that if you call him the rest of his money is going in the middle after the turn card whatever it is and the only card you'd really like to see is a jack.. maybe a diamond but that could flush him up, I doubt hes holding two diamonds though and then minraising.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-03-2007, 04:32 AM
HAL PHIPA HAL PHIPA is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: loving my new monies : )
Posts: 117
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

Push this time and then write down what his minraise means.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-03-2007, 04:51 AM
diebitter diebitter is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Married With Children
Posts: 24,596
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

I'm thinking 8d7d or 5d4d? that or AdXd
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-03-2007, 05:15 AM
crunny crunny is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Australia
Posts: 590
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

I've seen villains do this with TP too. So yeah i'd push here.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-03-2007, 11:59 AM
KipBond KipBond is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 1,725
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

I'd figure you are at best a 2:1 dog:

Board: 9d 6c 3d

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.561% 34.56% 00.00% 6843 0.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 65.439% 65.44% 00.00% 12957 0.00 { 99, 66, 33, AdKd, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, Ad8d, Ad7d, Ad6d, Ad5d, Ad4d, Ad2d, 8d7d, 5d4d }

But probably more like a 4:1 dog:

Board: 9d 6c 3d
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 19.054% 19.05% 00.00% 2075 0.00 { JdJh }
Hand 1: 80.946% 80.95% 00.00% 8815 0.00 { 99, 66, 33, 8d7d, 5d4d }
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-03-2007, 12:05 PM
Vegetarian Vegetarian is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 303
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

What are villains actual stats and how quickly did he min raise?
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-03-2007, 01:07 PM
CalledDownLight CalledDownLight is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: burning money in non-ring games
Posts: 4,541
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

I don't know villian's actual stats as I don't use a HUD and only use pokertracker to keep my winrate, hands, etc. His minraise came pretty quickly but not instantly, pretty much in the flow of how quickly your average player makes a decision. He check shoved over my cbet and a cold call in a 5way pot at another table about 45 min earlier, but not sure if he would even remember it was me or anything else. I folded aces in that hand, but the board was really dry (something like 952r) and I cbet $10 into $15 there also. I talked to HAL PHIPA on aim and he thought that since he shoved that time where only a set makes sense then this one is more likely to be a draw, but I'm not sure how I feel about that. What do you all think? Would he shove a draw for more FE here?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-03-2007, 01:11 PM
NL__Fool NL__Fool is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 817
Default Re: JJ overpair multiway gets minraised NL50

I think Im folding here, it looks like he wants to play for stacks, if you call flop mini raise your are commited here, the board not that drawy
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:09 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.