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Old 06-02-2007, 05:40 PM
HoldenFoldem HoldenFoldem is offline
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Default Is this spew..front running the flush draw

If you just check call it down, your hand becomes obvious, and you don't get paid off when you hit. On the other hand, leading the bets gets annoying when you miss several draws in a row, as we all do from time to time. Are there any other ways to play this from early position?? Any thoughts on hand as played??


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $1 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

<font color="#C00000">Hero ($114.80)</font>
<font color="#C00000">Button ($93.45)</font>
SB ($99)
BB ($94.22)
UTG ($51.20)
MP ($89.55)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 2[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises to $2</font>, Hero calls $2, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP calls $2, Hero calls $2.

Flop: ($13.50) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $6</font>, Button calls $6, MP folds.

Turn: ($25.50) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $15</font>, Button calls $15.

River: ($55.50) A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $26</font>, Hero calls $26.

Final Pot: $107.50

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has 2h Ah (two pair, aces and queens).
Button has Js Kc (straight, ace high).
Outcome: Button wins $107.50. </font>
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Old 06-02-2007, 10:52 PM
HoldenFoldem HoldenFoldem is offline
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Default Re: Is this spew..front running the flush draw

somebody help me out here please.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:03 PM
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Default Re: Is this spew..front running the flush draw

pretty std, but i don't see what you expect him to value bet that you beat on the river
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:14 PM
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Default Re: Is this spew..front running the flush draw

bet the flop and the turn bigger. Check/raising on the flop isn't bad I don't think because it's not bad if it gets checked through.
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Old 06-02-2007, 11:18 PM
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Default Re: Is this spew..front running the flush draw

I agree that betting out the flush draw is typically a better play than c/cing it, but it depends on the situation. For instance, if, positionwise the hand is like this (from OOP-IP) - you, pfr, donk, then i like to c/c especially on a board like this.

The way you played this is fine, except I'd like to make it 10-11 on the flop, and about 2/3ish pot on the turn. On the river as played, he's rarely betting something that you beat, so I'd actually chuck this.
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