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Old 06-02-2007, 05:17 PM
nudz nudz is offline
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Default 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

How deep do i need to be to really be able to fold a set,
one of the resons i seem to lose alot with sets, is coz i seen way over my share of set over set in the 17k hands i played this month after getting PT.

But i post some of my losers and I want to know if it would really be ev+ to fold a set in these spots.
If im 100BB or less im always never folding set, but its been occasion where we have been playing closer to 150-200BB. Im playing 100nl, my image is always lag.

POKERSTARS GAME #10131782629: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/05/27 - 14:27:15 (ET)
Table 'Eunomia' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: StarMike2006 ($82.95 in chips)
Seat 2: karree1971 ($152.45 in chips)
Seat 3: nudz4u ($291.30 in chips)
Seat 4: Last_Legion ($111.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Muletz ($102.10 in chips)
Seat 6: tripCCC ($103.15 in chips)
Seat 7: Shadwims ($88.50 in chips)
Seat 8: ERockGuy ($161.80 in chips)
Seat 9: Lotto13 ($215.40 in chips)
tripCCC: posts small blind $0.50
Shadwims: posts big blind $1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nudz4u [4h 4d]
ERockGuy: folds
Lotto13: folds
StarMike2006: folds
karree1971: raises $3 to $4
nudz4u: calls $4
Last_Legion: folds
Muletz: folds
tripCCC: calls $3.50
Shadwims: folds
*** FLOP *** [4c 8c 7s]
tripCCC: checks
karree1971: bets $5
nudz4u: raises $8 to $13
tripCCC: calls $13
karree1971: folds
*** TURN *** [4c 8c 7s] [Kh]
tripCCC: checks
nudz4u: bets $25
tripCCC: raises $25 to $50
nudz4u: calls $25
*** RIVER *** [4c 8c 7s Kh] [Ad]
tripCCC: bets $36.15 and is all-in
nudz4u: calls $36.15
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tripCCC: shows [7d 7c] (three of a kind, Sevens)
nudz4u: mucks hand

Here i should really be a fold them shouldent I?

ullTiltPoker Game #2550005762: Table Garnett - $0.50/$1 - No Limit Hold'em - 4:26:56 ET - 2007/05/31
Seat 1: ecbarn ($16)
Seat 2: Bold__Ruler ($113.75)
Seat 3: Lugia42 ($100)
Seat 4: cancv ($59.35), is sitting out
Seat 5: 024KOBE ($85.30)
Seat 6: grackle ($43.60)
Seat 7: devilsmind ($0), is sitting out
Seat 8: nudzie ($214.55)
Seat 9: DON KEY OT ($100)
grackle posts the small blind of $0.50
nudzie posts the big blind of $1
Lugia42 posts $1
The button is in seat #5
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to nudzie [4s 4c]
devilsmind stands up
DON KEY OT folds
ecbarn raises to $5
Jbrust01 sits down
Bold__Ruler calls $5
Lugia42 folds
Jbrust01 adds $75
024KOBE calls $5
grackle folds
nudzie calls $4
*** FLOP *** [9h 4d 6c]
nudzie checks
ecbarn bets $11, and is all in
Bold__Ruler has 15 seconds left to act
Bold__Ruler calls $11
024KOBE calls $11
nudzie raises to $35
Bold__Ruler: WTF!!!
Bold__Ruler raises to $108.75, and is all in
024KOBE folds
nudzie calls $73.75
Bold__Ruler shows [9c 9d]
nudzie shows [4s 4c]
ecbarn shows [Tc Ts]
*** TURN *** [9h 4d 6c] [2s]
*** RIVER *** [9h 4d 6c 2s] [Qs]
Bold__Ruler shows three of a kind, Nines
nudzie shows three of a kind, Fours
Bold__Ruler wins the side pot ($195.50) with three of a kind, Nines
ecbarn shows a pair of Tens
Bold__Ruler wins the main pot ($62.50) with three of a kind, Nines


Here I almost folded coz of the bad "acting", but this player have been playing pretty donkish, and could easy be overplaying a overpair, two pair etc etc.

Im gonna be posting alot of hands, as im trying to get pretty serious about my poker.
Thats all for now, nudz.
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Old 06-02-2007, 05:31 PM
thac thac is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

Don't fold a set ever until you're like 500 bb deep. People play so bad and overplay so many hands/draws that it'd be really bad to throw a set away.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:04 PM
als33 als33 is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

set under set means you are going to go broke. sorry, that's just how it is.

that said, you need to stop making these glorified minraises.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:10 PM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

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3 of a kind, my biggest leak

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lolololol
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:14 PM
RiverHebrew2 RiverHebrew2 is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

lmao naw- u should never fold sets in 6max games until u get up to HSNL, which probably won't be for a while if ever they're just coolers
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:22 PM
nudz nudz is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

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3 of a kind, my biggest leak

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lolololol

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Hey! I relize that I might just been unlucky, and this is only a realativ small sampel of hands, but in the last 17k hands i played I only manage to profit 40$ on 3 of a kind.
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:26 PM
wrschultz wrschultz is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

When playing 9 handed games, you can definitely fold sets sometimes. That being said, at $100nl, you should never fold a set...
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:40 PM
ikestoys ikestoys is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

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lmao naw- u should never fold sets in 6max games until u get up to HSNL, which probably won't be for a while if ever they're just coolers

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ummm incorrect, just don't fold sets k? or at least play loose enough where ppl aren't going to call you with only a set
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

Surely you don't know what your biggest leak is. It certainly isn't hands like this. Folding either hand here is ghastly.
Also, raise more on flop in hand 1
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Old 06-02-2007, 06:44 PM
Isura Isura is offline
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Default Re: 3 of a kind, my biggest leak

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lmao naw- u should never fold sets in 6max games until u get up to HSNL, which probably won't be for a while if ever they're just coolers

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lol, no. sets in HSNL = the mortal nuts on any street and any action (Diablo theorem)
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