Bubble hand, 1k WSOP ME satellite

[DJ Sensei]

Final 8 get 12k main event packages, we're down to 9. (9th place gets $2500, but obviously thats not what we're here for) Villain came into the FT shortstacked with about 11k but stole some blinds and built his stack back up. He's been coming into more pots than most players, with a variety of limping, shoving, and smaller raises. This is his first minraise, that I recall.

I've been playing a pretty standard tight and aggressive game, stealing enough to keep me afloat but not getting into it often without good cards. I don't think i've shown anything down since we got to the FT, though nobody else has either. The table as a whole has been pretty conservative, everyone just stealing what they need to get by and waiting for somebody else to do the dirty work.

Full Tilt Poker Game #2556516223: $1K Thurs. Main Event Qualifier (18538402), Table 10 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:35:27 ET - 2007/06/01
Seat 1: joc (37,458)
Seat 2: balo (27,166)
Seat 3: ocrowe (31,578)
Seat 4: MrDoggy (37,570)
Seat 5: bigballzpokr (53,130)
Seat 6: DJ Sensei (24,706)
Seat 7: PJShark (30,651)
Seat 8: nonprofitorg (35,750)
Seat 9: pr1metime (24,991)
joc antes 250
balo antes 250
ocrowe antes 250
MrDoggy antes 250
bigballzpokr antes 250
DJ Sensei antes 250
PJShark antes 250
nonprofitorg antes 250
pr1metime antes 250
bigballzpokr posts the small blind of 1,000
DJ Sensei posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DJ Sensei [Jc As]
PJShark folds
nonprofitorg folds
pr1metime raises to 4,000
joc folds
balo folds
ocrowe folds
MrDoggy folds
bigballzpokr folds

pr1metime: play nice - I didn't see this during the hand, I don't know if it makes a difference, but he typed it as I was thinking.

Action to me in the BB: Fold, call, or shove?

If you call, whats your general flop plan on A high flops, J high flops, low flops, maybe something like KJx, something like T98?

[Scary_Tiger]

Calling is not an option for me here. It's fold or shove.

I'm a nit so I fold, but it might be a shove.

[Bigdaddydvo]

I puke and fold. Really not sure how to interpret the minraise, given that it was from EP it suggests at least some strength. Sats like these have the Gap Principle on steriods. I think you'll be able to find other spots where you're pushing and not calling.

[NoahSD]

FOLD.

[luckychewy]

wow, definitely don't fold. it's call or shove, but i lean heavily towards call.

EDIT: noah, really? how come?

[Exitonly]

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FOLD.

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insignificant pot imo, we can wait around steal and survive and someone will do something stupid first.

[luckychewy]

well i guess this shows my complete lack of satellite strategy, cause i'd never fold in a freeze out here(and my line would be heavily weighted towards shove then).

what range are we calling here? shoving?

[Sardo Numspa]

first minraise and all those chips already out there tells me he probably wants a call or a raise into him. like someone else said, i'd nit it up and fold. only need one moran to screw up and you're in.

[Superfluous Man]

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FOLD.

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...and I don't think it's close.

[psyduck]

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FOLD.

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...and I don't think it's close.

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