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Old 06-02-2007, 03:27 AM
MortenTA MortenTA is offline
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Default AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

Party Poker - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.50/$1 Blinds - 5 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $105.25
BB: $98.50
UTG: $80.60
CO: $154.19
<font color="black">Hero (BTN): $114.30</font>

<font color="black">Reads: </font><font color="blue">villain is 33/15/1.1 - He hasn't made a big pf raise like this before. </font>

<font color="black">Preflop:</font> Hero is dealt A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (5 Players)
UTG folds, <font color="red">CO raises to $7.00</font>, <font color="red">Hero raises to $22.50</font>, 2 folds, CO calls $15.50

<font color="black">Flop:</font> ($46.50) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
<font color="red">CO bets $41.00</font>, Hero ?
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:41 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

call, call/shove all turns.
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:51 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

So you see him doing this with TT-QQ often?
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:56 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

I'd probably just shove right now. I'm never getting away from this after getting that much money in pre.
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Old 06-02-2007, 03:57 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

shove right here
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:07 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

nah shoving here is bad, let him hang himself
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:11 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

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I'd probably just shove right now. I'm never getting away from this after getting that much money in pre.

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Folding is obviously not an option. Calling invites him to fire again, and there are no bad turn cards for AA here really.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:14 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

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nah shoving here is bad, let him hang himself

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I think TT-QQ makes up a very large portion of villains range and that a shove will look more bluffy to the villain then just a call ip. If you simply call, villain I think is very very likely to shut down. I think a shove is most optimal.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:16 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

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nah shoving here is bad, let him hang himself

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I think TT-QQ makes up a very large portion of villains range and that a shove will look more bluffy to the villain then just a call ip. If you simply call, villain I think is very very likely to shut down. I think a shove is most optimal.

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The very large donk bet doesn't look like QQ/JJ to me. If he had that he'd try to get to showdown more cheaply.

I think he has a small pair or no pair here.
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Old 06-02-2007, 04:17 AM
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Default Re: AA against big pf raise and donk bet on flop..

overthinking there silenced. Against this guys range calling is clearly best. Don't try to guess these guys thought processes. Plus he could easily have air here.
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