nut flush draw do you think he pays if i hit ?

chaide · #1 06-01-2007, 07:42 PM

World Sports Exchange (WSEX) - No Limit Hold'em Cash Game - $0.25/$0.50 Blinds - 6 Players - (LegoPoker HH Converter)

SB: $24.50
BB: $80.95
UTG: $60.55
MP: $43.80
CO: $29.72
Hero (BTN): $68.70

Preflop: Hero is dealt Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (6 Players)
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $5.00, 3 folds, MP calls $4.50, CO folds

Flop: ($11) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP checks, Hero bets $8.16, MP calls $8.16 < is it better to check here?

Turn: ($27.32) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 Players)
MP bets $16.95, Hero?

ty in advance

prodonkey · #2 06-01-2007, 07:58 PM

he has $14 left.. what's left to get paid off? Sure you're going to get paid if you hit, but it's a bad call.

rivhawk02 · #3 06-01-2007, 08:32 PM

The flop might be a decent spot to check because any 10, any 6, any piece of the board, and QJ might come along for the ride.
As for the turn, it looks like hero is dead to a heart or a ten for the straight as villain looks to already have the straight.

You do not have fold equity on the turn because of villain's likely straight so a raise is out of the question.
Calling doesnt give you any odds: You are getting 2.5:1 odds and need about 3.3:1 for a call. Like the other poster said implied odds dont make up for this because villain has $14 left anyway.

Folding is the best option.

Vyse · #4 06-01-2007, 08:40 PM

fold unless you seriously think one of your overs is an out. Which it likely isn't.

Klompy · #5 06-01-2007, 09:49 PM

I wouldn't c'bet this flop.

sh58 · #6 06-01-2007, 09:50 PM

why raise 10x the blind?

SykoraG · #7 06-01-2007, 10:39 PM

Preflop - Raise it to 4x BB + 1x for every limper so $3.50.
As played your flop cbet is fine.
Turn is a close fold.

cooker3 · #8 06-01-2007, 11:48 PM

That pf raise is a little too big for my liking.
The bet on the flop seems fine, fold on turn now

chaide · #9 06-02-2007, 08:52 AM

ty all for your comments i see i have no outs for a call and my raise pf is too big but i am really bad at making calculations in only a few seconds... actually my mean concern is about to cbet flop or not and there is not consensus about it. ty anyway