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Old 06-01-2007, 05:18 PM
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Default Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) internettexasholdem.com

UTG+1 (t2590)
MP1 (t2955)
MP2 (t2205)
Hero (t2930)
CO (t2850)
Button (t6070)
SB (t2930)
BB (t3010)
UTG (t4310)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP1 calls t20, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t100</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, BB calls t80, UTG calls t80, MP1 calls t80.

Flop: (t410) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 bets t100</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t360</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to t4210</font>, MP1 folds, Hero ???
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:43 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

You have to hope he has AQ to make this call, but AQ would almost certainly raise preflop. To me his range is more like
{ 55 , QT , J9h , Axh }. I can imagine leting this hand go in a multiway pot 150BB deep.
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Old 06-01-2007, 07:18 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

For me such situatutions are difficult cause half the players are spew monkeys which you just canr read.

But a decent player will have 55, QT most of the time, and a str8flush draw sometimes. The way he plays it its more like a made hand why would he shut out MP if he is on a draw (semi-bluff is possible though)??

Sorry for bumping this but would really love to get some insight from a good player.
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:08 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

Tournament just started, looks like there could be more better spots to push later on in the tournament. You could easily be losing to a two pair Q10 but I don't see why he would raise so much. It seems that he might be raising with a really good draw, maybe JhKh.
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Old 06-01-2007, 08:35 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

Find a better line.

As played, shrug and felt.
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:34 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

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Find a better line.

As played, shrug and felt.

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And hope it's AQ. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:41 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

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Find a better line.

As played, shrug and felt.

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And hope it's AQ. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Look at the preflop beting, how many players limp AQ UTG?
I never do and most guys I know also.

I even didnt put AQ in his possible range, really little hope he has it.
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:45 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

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Find a better line.

As played, shrug and felt.

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And hope it's AQ. [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img]

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Look at the preflop beting, how many players limp AQ UTG?
I never do and most guys I know also.

I even didnt put AQ in his possible range, really little hope he has it.

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Agreed. Weakest thing you might see here after a donk and a RR is probably going to be AThh. Limp-call is weighted towards sets and 2 pairs.

Yeah, it's a fold.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:03 PM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

I guess the sarcasm in my voice doesn't come through, hence the [img]/images/graemlins/shocked.gif[/img] I don't put a poker player on this hand but I can put a donkey on it.
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:35 AM
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Default Re: Call overbet push on flop with overpair? $50

I figured the overbet was probably a draw and called. However, there was probably too much chance of a set or 2-pair.

Don't get the big name posters replying here, but I would get flamed if I posted this in HSMTT.
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