$16 - QJo shortstacked

Jago · #1 06-01-2007, 04:09 AM

I think I have to call here, right? If i fold here im easily bubble boy but at least now i have a shot ?

PokerStars Tournament, Big Blind is t400 with t25 antes (5 handed) Converter on pregopoker.com

UTG (t1152)
CO (t1287)
Button (t5830)
SB (t3791)
Hero (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is in BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]
UTG raises to t1127 (All-in), CO raises to t1262 (All-in), Button folds, SB folds, Hero calls t862

RexWoo · #2 06-01-2007, 04:19 AM

Good call and it's not close

Jago · #3 06-01-2007, 04:32 AM

i imagine you'd have to call very close to ATC, something like 80% maybe?

Tooorero86 · #4 06-01-2007, 04:35 AM

call, his range should be also quite big if hes good...

dwigt · #5 06-01-2007, 05:10 AM

I'm playing 3.40s, but shouldn't we fold if we think UTG/CO are solid? SNG Whiz with opponents set to tight says UTG push 44+,A7+,A4s+,KJ+,KTs+ (top 17%) If CO is good, I think he should call very tight something like 77+,AJ+. Random CO is definitely much wider than this making it an easy call.

So, UTG would we push a little tighter than 44+,A7+,A4s+,KJ+,KTs+?
And CO should we call somewhere around 77+,AJ+?

RexWoo · #6 06-01-2007, 05:21 AM

dwigt :

UTG is pushing probably like 75% of his hands as he will get hit by the blinds next hand.

Knowing this, and being almost in the same situation, I'd say UTG+1 calls with 20-25%.

dwigt · #7 06-01-2007, 02:26 PM

Thanks Rex. This makes sense now: the ICM-EV for folding overstates true EV for foldling for UTG/UTG+1.