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Old 05-31-2007, 10:30 PM
APipeDream APipeDream is offline
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Default Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

Stars 180 - I am the chip leader, 33 left

Villain has been 45%/12%/2AF for 32 hands I've been with him on the table, either limping or min-raising many cards preflop. I decided to try and take this pot preflop, to no avail. What the frick do I do on this flop though?!?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t400 (8 handed) internettexasholdem.com

MP1 (t6410)
MP2 (t15227)
Hero (t27575)
Button (t10026)
SB (t6924)
BB (t8389)
UTG (t4749)
UTG+1 (t3996)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t400, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t2000</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t1600.

Flop: (t4175) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t13202 (All-In)</font>, Hero ???
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:10 PM
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

I turbo call this almost always.

Doesn't mean I'm right though.

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Old 05-31-2007, 11:27 PM
AceofSpades AceofSpades is offline
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

I instanta muck. Last time I called here villian had AQ. Pot odds are terrible if you're behind.
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Old 05-31-2007, 11:43 PM
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

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I instanta muck. Last time I called here villian had AQ.

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So now your range for everyone is AQ?
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:14 AM
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

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I instanta muck. Last time I called here villian had AQ.

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So now your range for everyone is AQ?

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lol. no. but I do think that HERO could easily be behind here, villian is by no means even close to desperate.
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Old 06-01-2007, 12:39 AM
LSgambler LSgambler is offline
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

villian is probably raising A10+ preflop and I don't think he is overbetting like that into the preflop raiser with two pair or a set. So it looks like a very bad bluff. In 180 man tourney I call.
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Old 06-01-2007, 02:48 AM
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

"villian is probably raising A10+ preflop and I don't think he is overbetting like that into the preflop raiser with two pair or a set. So it looks like a very bad bluff. In 180 man tourney I call"

Me too
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Old 06-01-2007, 03:53 AM
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

yeah, im usually calling this too. the sad thing is that villain has you beat a good amount of the time. I just dont think that you see random junk or tiny pairs here that often. It is usually another ace.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:05 AM
anotherFliplost anotherFliplost is offline
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

Why would he go all-in with A9, A4, or a set, rather than value-bet or check-raise? He probably raises AJ+ preflop. The only hands I expect here are AT- or a whiffed mid-pair. You are beating so much of his range.

Unless I have a note that says "crazy flop overbet = monster" on the player.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:08 AM
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Default Re: Line against active Villain\'s shove postflop?!?

seems like a good call
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